I give up.. Or will

[RiverRat1]

If Desantis is the nominee he will feel the entire wrath of the communist left media.
Trump is the only person with the balls to go on the offensive with nothing to lose.
They will not let him win so I guess there really is no point.

100% fact. If the MSM does not attack Desantis then he is not working for us.

I wish we here at TBH could at least agree on a few facts like this prior to seeing what takes place. Otherwise once it happens the excuses start rolling in.

One reason I want Trump to run is simply because I'm 95% sure they will not let him win no matter what. If they think he will win nothing will be off the table and things will get wild.

I hope Shane is correct. I've just never seen a R with any backbone get anything done. I can't see Desantis coming in swinging.

[RiverRat1]

Not voting = not smart move.

Say Trump wins both the primary and the White House again. What is he going to do to fix all the corruption in both parties? Do folks really believe republican politicians aren’t as corrupt as democrats??

That's my point. Trump isn't really a D or an R. They're all crooked so why elect another one?

[Pedernal]

That's my point. Trump isn't really a D or an R. They're all crooked so why elect another one?

Corruption is out of control. if the choice is between Biden and DeSantis why not vote for the republicans?

[Johnny44]

I can see the point RiverRat, maybe the best thing is a complete collapse and rebuild…a purge

[PondPopper]

Nothing has been fixed to the left from prevent cheating. Until that happens no single vote from either side is real.
None of it matters when the outcome is predetermined. Its all just an illusion.

Voting at this point is a waste of time but I still do it. Habit or hope I guess.

[PondPopper]

I can see the point RiverRat, maybe the best thing is a complete collapse and rebuild…a purge

This would be very ugly but it is exactly what needs to happen...

[centex_aggie]

With the imminent AI influence and manipulation, many of the experts are saying 2024 will be the last human election. Who knows what the world will look like in 2028. I think a reckoning is coming soon, but who knows how long they can continue to prop the system up.


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[WItoTX]

The fact the Romney's / Bush's / Ryan's / Cheney's of the rep party are cheering make my radar go off...no doubt a caged possum could do better than this clown show, but I'm sick of the swamp having the puppet strings.

Because Trump made them look like fools. They just want to see him fail, because they are failures themselves.

They are not people I would be proud to have endorse me either. I would have asked them to keep quiet personally.

[RiverRat1]

Corruption is out of control. if the choice is between Biden and DeSantis why not vote for the republicans?

I can see the point RiverRat, maybe the best thing is a complete collapse and rebuild…a purge

I explain a little in post #7 but it's like Johnny says above.

Just look around and it's amazing how most people are oblivious and don't care or don't want to talk politics at all. They focus on stupid crap without using any logic or reasoning. Others just work, make money, and ignore everything else.

History shows none of these people will care until it hits home hard. Also it has to hit fast to get them all on board at the same time.

[WItoTX]

I explain a little in post #7 but it's like Johnny says above.

Just look around and it's amazing how most people are oblivious and don't care or don't want to talk politics at all. They focus on stupid crap without using any logic or reasoning. Others just work, make money, and ignore everything else.

History shows none of these people will care until it hits home hard. Also it has to hit fast to get them all on board at the same time.

Honest question. What does DeSantis have going for him that would be good for America?

[Danno]

Honest question. What does DeSantis have going for him that would be good for America?

HE'S NOT BIDEN

Seems to work for the Liberals.....

[Dr. Evil]

Honest question. What does DeSantis have going for him that would be good for America?

Anti-woke is a big thing he has going for him. I also hope he is still for eliminating the IRS and going to a straight "consumption tax".

[Shane]

100% fact. If the MSM does not attack Desantis then he is not working for us.

I wish we here at TBH could at least agree on a few facts like this prior to seeing what takes place. Otherwise once it happens the excuses start rolling in.

One reason I want Trump to run is simply because I'm 95% sure they will not let him win no matter what. If they think he will win nothing will be off the table and things will get wild.

I hope Shane is correct. I've just never seen a R with any backbone get anything done. I can't see Desantis coming in swinging.

I'm puzzled by folks who think DeSantis isn't a fighter, can't handle the liberal media, and/or won't come out swinging against all things "woke". If you pay any attention at all to the guy and what he does and says ALL THE TIME, you will see that he is every bit as much a fighter against the woke left as Trump is. He is actually, in my opinion, more effective at actually beating them than Trump was. Trump does great at calling them out and shining a light on the swamp and all of that. But he didn't fire the leftists in control of all the federal bureaucracies. DeSantis did in Florida. Trump put Fauci in control of the Federal covid response. DeSantis appointed Dr. Joseph Ladapo to Surgeon General of Florida (he's the opposite of Fauci in every way). DeSantis is not at all afraid to take on the woke media. He hammers them daily. He has a long list of real accomplishments:

https://flgov.com/2023/01/09/governor-ron-desantis-highlights-administrations-major-accomplishments-of-2022/

He has Trump's fearlessness, but lacks Trump's childishness and advanced age. And he's been more effective as governor of Florida than Trump was as President, overall. Trump had some huge wins, but his huge blunders negated most of them. DeSantis isn't God either. But the way I see it, he's a more effective fighter against the left than Trump. I think we all agree that we need a warrior to not just call out the left and make fun of them, but to freaking obliterate and defeat them.

[Radar]

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[4wheels]

I understand how you feel @RiverRat1. The only thing you can do is vote, donate money to candidates that support your values, spend money with people that support your values and keep living in accordance to your values. Trump is not the only solution. I will not vote Democrat no matter who is running.

Trump does not help himself by calling people names. That just annoys the heck out of most people. And it's not presidential. Read the Durham report and you see just how communist we already are.

Good luck comrade