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    #46
    Originally posted by critter69 View Post
    If I had a 4000.00 dog, he better know what " come " means. And he for sure would have a tracking collar and a shock collar on to reinforce he knows what comes means.
    Well the female I'm hunting is worth that. But she's not my dog I'm just hunting her for a man that owns her. And they never taught her what come means so that the drawback on her. My male I just got is learning pretty quick what come means. And I do have tracking collars for them.

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      #47
      Originally posted by texashunter56 View Post
      Yes I understand just as the landowner that your property/dog is trespassing on to without permission understands. To that landowner you are in fact trespassing, plain and simple. It really is just simple to get your dog back. You should just call the GW or sheriff and tell him that you let your dog trespass onto land you had no permission to hunt. I am sure they will sort it out for you then explain the laws about trespassing to you. You can help the trespass issue if you cared as much about your dogs as much as the landowner of the land you are trespassing on cares about his land.
      great advice..I'll do me and you do you. Untill you've hunted with dogs you wouldn't understand my point. And FYI. The words you highlighted you obviously didn't read them cause the post you just posted was probably one of the dumbest I've ever read on this forum.

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        #48
        Originally posted by Cbb1722 View Post
        Oh no I worry about it. And I don't let my dogs trespass if I can help it. And I haven't had a problem with it yet I'm just trying to figure out if there's a way IF they do and the landowner is being difficult about it if I can legally go and get my dog. Cause to me him not letting me go get my dog, my property, that's the same as theft
        You letting your dog get on my place constitutes negligence on your part, not theft on mine.
        Pretty sure I don't have to let you come roam my place trying to find your dog.

        If it was my dog I would try and locate owner of property and HUMBLY ask for permission to retrieve dog. Telling me or being arrogant about retrieving dog will not get you permission
        If I could not find owner or it was the middle of the night I would sit down on my side and wait for dog to come back

        We used to coon and hog hunt. We either hunted big places or had permission from neighbors prior to turning out

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          #49
          Originally posted by Cbb1722 View Post
          Well the female I'm hunting is worth that. But she's not my dog I'm just hunting her for a man that owns her. And they never taught her what come means so that the drawback on her. My male I just got is learning pretty quick what come means. And I do have tracking collars for them.
          I would suggest you rethink hunting dogs that don't come to you every time. I wouldn't do it ,but There are landowners that shoot dogs on sight. You don't seem to understand that people don't want dogs on their property or you don't care what they want. There is a reason dog hunting is frowned upon nowadays. I used to go with my uncle & his friends when they ran coon dogs.I loved every minute of it . This was many years ago & they knew everybody for miles & no one cared, but as those old timers died out & property was sold to different people who didn't want dogs running anything on their land they had to stop running dogs ,unless it was in an area where the dogs didn't get on said posted property. Eventually they had to quit all together as the land was bought by more people who didn't care for dogs. I guess they could have kept it up ,but they respected the wishes of neighboring landowners.


          I apologize Cajun for hijacking your post. Just hard to let it go.
          Last edited by DUKFVR; 03-11-2017, 10:28 AM.

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            #50
            Originally posted by BTLowry View Post
            You letting your dog get on my place constitutes negligence on your part, not theft on mine.
            Pretty sure I don't have to let you come roam my place trying to find your dog.

            If it was my dog I would try and locate owner of property and HUMBLY ask for permission to retrieve dog. Telling me or being arrogant about retrieving dog will not get you permission
            If I could not find owner or it was the middle of the night I would sit down on my side and wait for dog to come back

            We used to coon and hog hunt. We either hunted big places or had permission from neighbors prior to turning out
            Yessir I wouldn't be a jerk about asking to go get my dog. We have a pretty big place to hunt and permission on one side of the road but if they get deep enough to the road before I get there especially if they're trailing a coon they might get to the road before I can get around there and catch them. I've caught them on the road before they got to the other side a couple times and I try to avoid that side if possible

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              #51
              Originally posted by DUKFVR View Post
              I would suggest you rethink hunting dogs that don't come to you every time. I wouldn't do it ,but There are landowners that shoot dogs on sight. You don't seem to understand that people don't want dogs on their property or you don't care what they want. There is a reason dog hunting is frowned upon nowadays. I used to go with my uncle & his friends when they ran coon dogs.I loved every minute of it . This was many years ago & they knew everybody for miles & no one cared, but as those old timers died out & property was sold to different people who didn't want dogs running anything on their land they had to stop running dogs ,unless it was in an area where the dogs didn't get on said posted property. Eventually they had to quit all together as the land was bought by more people who didn't care for dogs. I guess they could have kept it up ,but they respected the wishes of neighboring landowners.


              I apologize Cajun for hijacking your post. Just hard to let it go.
              I understand that some people don't want dogs on their property. I get that. But don't tell me mine are gonna run deer out of the country because I know that's not true at all. I'm just wondering if my dogs ended up on property they shouldn't be on and if the landowner is being difficult if there is anything I can do like call a GW or Sheriff to help me in the situation.

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                #52
                Originally posted by Cbb1722 View Post
                I understand that some people don't want dogs on their property. I get that. But don't tell me mine are gonna run deer out of the country because I know that's not true at all. I'm just wondering if my dogs ended up on property they shouldn't be on and if the landowner is being difficult if there is anything I can do like call a GW or Sheriff to help me in the situation.
                There is nothing a GW or LEO can do for you. A landowner does not have to let you go get your dog. I had a tagged deer get on my property supposedly. The owner of said deer told the game warden he could see it from the road & wanted to try & get it by darting it. The game warden told him without my permission he could not step foot on my land. I found out about this a week or so later. If they had contacted me & GW could see the deer too I would have said get it. If just wanting to go look for it without a visual no unless I was there. Your luck in gonna run out one day on your dogs & it will get somewhere its not supposed to be & it ain't gonna end good for you & or the dog. If you can't guarantee 100% that you can keep your dogs off posted land you need to quit running them.

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                  #53
                  Looks like that guy is wearing my drake pullover that never showed up.

                  In my experience on this site and other hunting sites, nine out of 10 times pictures of "trespassers" turn out to be people that had a legit reason to be on the property. This is especially true when the complaint is coming from a lease member and not a property owner.

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                    #54
                    Originally posted by Cbb1722 View Post
                    great advice..I'll do me and you do you. Untill you've hunted with dogs you wouldn't understand my point. And FYI. The words you highlighted you obviously didn't read them cause the post you just posted was probably one of the dumbest I've ever read on this forum.
                    Just as your replies are some of most arrogant on this forum stating your property(your dog you let trespass) is more important than respecting someone elses property. Courtesy goes a long ways. I'll quote this from my post... "You can help the trespass issue if you cared as much about your dogs as much as the landowner of the land you are trespassing on cares about his land." I have been around dogs when they ran them. The dog owners always called the landowner of the land they were running them on and the neighbors to let them know they would be out. Courtesy call. Never had an issue getting a dog back when the call was made before hand. If one neighboring LO objected then the decision was made to hunt that tract of land or go to another place to hunt.

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                      #55
                      Originally posted by Cbb1722 View Post
                      I understand that some people don't want dogs on their property. I get that. But don't tell me mine are gonna run deer out of the country because I know that's not true at all. I'm just wondering if my dogs ended up on property they shouldn't be on and if the landowner is being difficult if there is anything I can do like call a GW or Sheriff to help me in the situation.
                      Pretty sure that it will end up as a civil matter..... lawsuit time...

                      Trespass to retrieve your dog is basically a class c and worth $500 as long as you don't escalate it with a weapon, cutting a fence or lock or fighting with the landowner or his agent. (Short version...)

                      People are a-holes nowadays and I gave up on most folks a long time ago...

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                        #56
                        Originally posted by Stuck View Post
                        And here we go.
                        Yep

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                          #57
                          Originally posted by texashunter56 View Post
                          Just as your replies are some of most arrogant on this forum stating your property(your dog you let trespass) is more important than respecting someone elses property. Courtesy goes a long ways. I'll quote this from my post... "You can help the trespass issue if you cared as much about your dogs as much as the landowner of the land you are trespassing on cares about his land." I have been around dogs when they ran them. The dog owners always called the landowner of the land they were running them on and the neighbors to let them know they would be out. Courtesy call. Never had an issue getting a dog back when the call was made before hand. If one neighboring LO objected then the decision was made to hunt that tract of land or go to another place to hunt.
                          How are my posts arrogant? You're too ignorant to read what you've already highlighted. I never said I LET my dogs trespass. And they never have. And I said I would do my best to ask permission to get my dogs. But I was asking if one denied me to get my dog if I could do anything legally to go get them and you obviously want to act like you have power over everything and everyone because you can't read or comprehend what I've been trying to ask. You've just been about as rude as it can get with your smart arse comments. I'm done with you.

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                            #58
                            Originally posted by Cbb1722 View Post
                            So what are us hunters that hunt with dogs supposed to do if our dog crosses a boundary line? Every where I hunt they know me so it's not really a problem if my dog gets off the place I hunt. But when they do get off that 4000 dollars running around and that's just one dog. If my dogs cross a boundary I leave my gun in the truck or fence and go get them if I can't find a house to knock on the door and I get out as soon as I get them. so what's wrong with me not wanting to leave 4000 bucks in the woods and "hope" she finds her way back to the house?
                            Originally posted by snappertapper View Post
                            Maybe you shouldnt take your dog out if you can't control it from running on to neighboring properties.
                            It finally happened and I agree with snappertapper

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                              #59
                              Originally posted by Mike Javi Cooper View Post
                              Pretty sure that it will end up as a civil matter..... lawsuit time...

                              Trespass to retrieve your dog is basically a class c and worth $500 as long as you don't escalate it with a weapon, cutting a fence or lock or fighting with the landowner or his agent. (Short version...)

                              People are a-holes nowadays and I gave up on most folks a long time ago...
                              Thanks for the info. And I agree with your last sentence as well after dealing with a couple folks on here in this post

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                                #60
                                Originally posted by Cbb1722 View Post
                                great advice..I'll do me and you do you. Untill you've hunted with dogs you wouldn't understand my point. And FYI. The words you highlighted you obviously didn't read them cause the post you just posted was probably one of the dumbest I've ever read on this forum.
                                You can't win this debate because you're 100% wrong. End of story. That simple.

                                Originally posted by BTLowry View Post
                                You letting your dog get on my place constitutes negligence on your part, not theft on mine.
                                Pretty sure I don't have to let you come roam my place trying to find your dog.

                                If it was my dog I would try and locate owner of property and HUMBLY ask for permission to retrieve dog. Telling me or being arrogant about retrieving dog will not get you permission
                                If I could not find owner or it was the middle of the night I would sit down on my side and wait for dog to come back

                                We used to coon and hog hunt. We either hunted big places or had permission from neighbors prior to turning out
                                My dogs don't hunt but they follow me when I drive around the ranch. Once they ran off chasing pigs onto another property. I called them and waited for them. No way I'd go trespassing trying to get them.

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