My first poacher encounter

[webstertroy]

Choot em

[Cbb1722]

[QUOTE=RiverRat1;12271949]Listen very carefully.

Landowner has zero percent to do with your dogs. Do you understand zero?
Their your dogs. Do you understand? Can you follow along so far?

If your dogs run onto another property that's your problem. You can't say things like landowners don't understand etc. They don't have to because it's not their problem, it's yours.[/QUOTE

I never said this was the landowners problem. You follow me now? You should go read. You know use your eyes to understand the words and questions I've asked. Go look for bigfoot with jhill dude.

[Cajun shooter]

My first poacher encounter

Yep, it's amazing that they'll use a dog as a scapegoat to justify it.

Good guess but dead wrong. I'm pretty close to the owner and I'm only 100 yards from his house. I emailed him last night and talked to he and everyone else on the property this morning. No one knows who this is or why they are there and we are taking action to find out and stop it.


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[TxDispatcher]

It amazes me how folks think they have the right to trespass on someone's property.

Therein lies the problem. I don't give a crap what kind of money you spend on an animal. If you follow it into someone else's property for any reason, you're trespassing. Period. End of story

You call the GW or SO and see if they can contact the landowner and get you permission. It isn't rocket science.

[PYBUCK]

If it is the trapper and the landowners asked him to trap his property, they can come and go as they play
Please in order to catch their quarry, night or day.

[TxDispatcher]

I grew up 60+ yrs ago also. I know what it mean't to ask permission ahead of time. When I was very young, I went with my grandfather and an uncle who was a member and president of the local "Wolf Hunters Association". He was a member of an association hunting an animal that was already hunted/trapped to extinction in South Texas. Why did they still call it that name? They still hunted coyotes with dogs in the way their families before them hunted wolves many many years before. They kept the name because it was what they grew up with. They had packs of hounds they kept for hunting coyotes. They asked for permission to hunt land first before releasing their dogs. Many landowners allowed them to hunt and a few said no. If their dog got onto land they could not hunt they had to wait for them to come back to the truck that night or check back till they found them.
What many have shown in this thread is how they were raised. We are courteous and ask for permission first. If I had that much invested in my dogs I would do the same. I would never release in an area unless I had new what was happening around the property I was hunting on. If someone called me to ask permission or let me know about hunting next door I would tell them that I am trapping and snaring right now on my land. I have been since Jan since it is the best time to catch predators. I would want them to know this so they would take extra care to keep their dogs on the land they are hunting on or they would need to wait till I am not trapping. I would not have a problem if they called me to let me know where and what they are doing. If a dog got on mine and they called I would offer to help them find him. I have called owners on dogs I have found around my house. I would also explain to them that I trap at times during the year and if they value their dog that they need to keep them on their property. I have also attached note about trapping to the dogs collars that I catch roaming my place. Rarely have a dog show back up again.

My dad finally gave up coyote hunting 10-12 years ago. I grew up spending every weekend chasing yotes on the deer lease from the end of deer season till August. Nothing quite like hearing a pack of Walkers and Julys singing a song to the sky. Sucks that those days are over...but the very reason we are having the main discussion on this thread is what led him to give it up. He didn't wanna lose any dogs nor cause an issue with folks. And the fox pens that he ended up hunting the last few years became an expense that he didn't wanna pay for anymore

[Cajun shooter]

If it is the trapper and the landowners asked him to trap his property, they can come and go as they play
Please in order to catch their quarry, night or day.

Land owner said it's not the trapper and the trapper doesn't have a key to my property and he wasn't here last Tuesday night.


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[texashunter56]

My dad finally gave up coyote hunting 10-12 years ago. I grew up spending every weekend chasing yotes on the deer lease from the end of deer season till August. Nothing quite like hearing a pack of Walkers and Julys singing a song to the sky. Sucks that those days are over...but the very reason we are having the main discussion on this thread is what led him to give it up. He didn't wanna lose any dogs nor cause an issue with folks. And the fox pens that he ended up hunting the last few years became an expense that he didn't wanna pay for anymore

Did your Dad grow up in Stonewall County or that area of Texas by chance? If so then I have met him since I met a gentlemen a few years ago that hunted coyotes with dogs. He was from Bellville area.

[TxDispatcher]

Did your Dad grow up in Stonewall County or that area of Texas by chance? If so then I have met him since I met a gentlemen a few years ago that hunted coyotes with dogs. He was from Bellville area.

No sir, he grew up in Conroe. He would probably know who you're talking about. He was very active in the state for a long time. Was president of a hunting club when I was a young kid

[Chew]

No sir, he grew up in Conroe. He would probably know who you're talking about. He was very active in the state for a long time. Was president of a hunting club when I was a young kid

I grew up in conroe. I grew up Coon hunting the SHTF in the 70s and early 80s. My dad and grandpa rarely had a dog find its way to private land. Ran into a few fox and coyote hunters over the years. My dad was involved with Cleveland Coon hunters club for awhile. Trial and bench judge. We went to the state championship hunt in Fairfield several times. Goood times that have all but disappeared.

[lakefork]

I have a fishing lodge here on Lake Fork. Last summer we closed down to go on vacation. I got a voicemail on the lodge cell while I was on the road from a guy that was POed. His message said that he was at my lodge and no one was there to check him in. I called him and he was still hot. I explained to him that he wasn't booked with us and that he might be mistaken on where he was staying since every facility around here is named "Lake Fork" something. I could tell by the echo that he was inside my facility. I asked him how he got on my property since we have privacy gates. He said "we drove up to the gates and they just opened". I asked him how he got inside and he said that "a door was open". I told him he was a liar and that he had forced himself through and tripped the sensor on the inside. I told him to get off my property before I called the sheriff. He fessed up but instead of apologizing, he got more POed stated that he hadn't done anything wrong since he "thought" he had a reservation there. I told him that he was mistaken and informed him that he was trespassing and had forcibly entered my property and building. He kept screaming at me that he broke in because he "thought" he had a reservation and nobody was at the facility. I guess he finally left after he hung up on me because the deputy said he was not there when he arrived. I decided not to pursue it further even though I had his voicemail stating that he was on the property. I guess people think they can do whatever they want, no matter the law, as long as they feel that they have a good reason.

[Cajun shooter]

I have a fishing lodge here on Lake Fork. Last summer we closed down to go on vacation. I got a voicemail on the lodge cell while I was on the road from a guy that was POed. His message said that he was at my lodge and no one was there to check him in. I called him and he was still hot. I explained to him that he wasn't booked with us and that he might be mistaken on where he was staying since every facility around here is named "Lake Fork" something. I could tell by the echo that he was inside my facility. I asked him how he got on my property since we have privacy gates. He said "we drove up to the gates and they just opened". I asked him how he got inside and he said that "a door was open". I told him he was a liar and that he had forced himself through and tripped the sensor on the inside. I told him to get off my property before I called the sheriff. He fessed up but instead of apologizing, he got more POed stated that he hadn't done anything wrong since he "thought" he had a reservation there. I told him that he was mistaken and informed him that he was trespassing and had forcibly entered my property and building. He kept screaming at me that he broke in because he "thought" he had a reservation and nobody was at the facility. I guess he finally left after he hung up on me because the deputy said he was not there when he arrived. I decided not to pursue it further even though I had his voicemail stating that he was on the property. I guess people think they can do whatever they want, no matter the law, as long as they feel that they have a good reason.

That's right it's called an "entitlement mentality". Too many people now days think they are entitled to do whatever they want to do as long as they feel like they have a good reason. One persons good reason trumps the other persons good reason until there's nothing left.


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[Bumpy]

Idk about hog dogs but coondogs yes that's pretty common

my cousin was offered 10k for his squirrel dog at a competition.

[texashunter56]

No sir, he grew up in Conroe. He would probably know who you're talking about. He was very active in the state for a long time. Was president of a hunting club when I was a young kid

I would bet they did know each other. I was shocked when he told about this since he was the first man in 30-40 years I talked with that was hunting coyotes with dogs. IIRC This guy had a pasture fenced off with 2x4 non-climb wire where he raised coyotes (that were caught in when he fenced it) to train his dogs in. He did not kill the coyotes just trained his dogs to run them.

[GarGuy]

I have a fishing lodge here on Lake Fork. Last summer we closed down to go on vacation. I got a voicemail on the lodge cell while I was on the road from a guy that was POed. His message said that he was at my lodge and no one was there to check him in. I called him and he was still hot. I explained to him that he wasn't booked with us and that he might be mistaken on where he was staying since every facility around here is named "Lake Fork" something. I could tell by the echo that he was inside my facility. I asked him how he got on my property since we have privacy gates. He said "we drove up to the gates and they just opened". I asked him how he got inside and he said that "a door was open". I told him he was a liar and that he had forced himself through and tripped the sensor on the inside. I told him to get off my property before I called the sheriff. He fessed up but instead of apologizing, he got more POed stated that he hadn't done anything wrong since he "thought" he had a reservation there. I told him that he was mistaken and informed him that he was trespassing and had forcibly entered my property and building. He kept screaming at me that he broke in because he "thought" he had a reservation and nobody was at the facility. I guess he finally left after he hung up on me because the deputy said he was not there when he arrived. I decided not to pursue it further even though I had his voicemail stating that he was on the property. I guess people think they can do whatever they want, no matter the law, as long as they feel that they have a good reason.

Surprised he didnt just say he was looking for his hog dog.