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Originally posted by JBT View PostI USED to get a lot of speeding tickets - simple fix - spend the money on an Escort Passport 9500ix - I haven't had a ticket in 4 years and I haven't changed my driving habitsStopped a lot of folks running laser. Always grinned a little when I walked up and they were trying to turn the volume down on their high dollar laser detectors, or hide them. Didn't bother me in any way. Had the speed locked before they slammed on brakes anyway.
I was a 15-20 over stopper back when I was on a motor. Less on residential/side streets, or working areas where citizens were complaining and wanting our presence due to speed problems. But pretty dang lenient for the most part. Dont particular enjoy writing tickets, but its helps reduce crashes when we work high crash areas. All I care about in the long run, really. Not like we get a dime from it. The courts do.
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Originally posted by Burnadell View PostI can see how his F might have looked like an E if he was a sloppy writer, but that;s is wild that he would have gotten every number/letter of your plate wrong. Usually they are looking at the plate when they write it down.
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Originally posted by Bisch View PostI am reading this as you meant to type "guess you can't speed to pass either".
I have been driving for a while, and have never seen any speed limit sign that said "Except to Pass" under the number for the speed limit. You were wrong! Pay the ticket or take Defensive Driving and move on! How in the world could you be mad because you have to show proof of ins for them to kick that out. If you would have had proof of ins in your car like is required by law, you would not have to do this.
Bisch
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Originally posted by SolocamShooter View PostThat is not a true statement. I do not carry proof of insurance and they have always just asked who it was through and run the plate to pull it up. My insurance guy said as long as you stay within the state you're not required to carry it.
I think I'll sacrifice the console space and just keep a hard copy. Save myself any potential hassle.
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I got pulled over in Palo Pinto county by a DPS officer. I was east bound on 180 but the citation said the location was on 281. I went to the courts on my appointed date and was told by the prosecutor to "wait". I waited until the entire court was over and then the DPS officer came and told me he was going to reissue the citation. I didn't know they could do that. Fortunately the judge was walking out of court about that time and I told him of the situation. He listened and then asked me to wait outside the courtroom. A few minutes later the DPS officer came out and told me to slow down and he didn't want to catch me speeding in Palo Pinto county again.
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Originally posted by Burnadell View PostI can see how his F might have looked like an E if he was a sloppy writer, but that;s is wild that he would have gotten every number/letter of your plate wrongUsually they are looking at the plate when they write it down.
I had a man complain on one of my officers a couple of weeks ago. His insurance did not want to pay because the vehicle damaged was not the one listed on the accident report. I had to go back to the dispatcher logs and look at the original plate that he called in. It turned out that when the officer put the plate into the electronics, he made an error on one digit. The computer then went on to fill out the make, model, year and color of the vehicle. Unfortunately the license plate that the officer wrongly entered happened to come back to the same brand of pickup truck.
I had the officer amend his accident report and the man was able to get satisfaction from the insurance company. That is how sometimes almost every field can be wrong. It is not because the officer looked at the vehicle and made a mistake on the color and the make and the model and the year but because he improperly entered one number or letter and then did not go back and check.
I do not know if this applies to the OP but therein sometimes lies the problem with computers. Crap in and crap out. Having gone to computerized citations and accident reports it is important that the officer look back and check the but sometimes they simply did not do it. A single number or letter that is incorrectly entered can change the whole document.
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Originally posted by SolocamShooter View PostThat is not a true statement. I do not carry proof of insurance and they have always just asked who it was through and run the plate to pull it up. My insurance guy said as long as you stay within the state you're not required to carry it.
Sec. 601.053. EVIDENCE OF FINANCIAL RESPONSIBILITY. (a) As a condition of operating in this state a motor vehicle to which Section 601.051 applies, the operator of the vehicle on request shall provide to a peace officer, as defined by Article 2.12, Code of Criminal Procedure, or a person involved in an accident with the operator evidence of financial responsibility by exhibiting:
(1) a motor vehicle liability insurance policy covering the vehicle that satisfies Subchapter D or a photocopy of the policy;
(2) a standard proof of motor vehicle liability insurance form prescribed by the Texas Department of Insurance under Section 601.081 and issued by a liability insurer for the motor vehicle;
(2-a) an image displayed on a wireless communication device that includes the information required by Section 601.081 as provided by a liability insurer;
b) Except as provided by Subsection (c), an operator who does not exhibit evidence of financial responsibility under Subsection (a) is presumed to have operated the vehicle in violation of Section 601.051.
As I stated in above posts, there may be several reasons where the Officer is not able to confirm your coverage by computer. Examples: Your policy may be new and not yet uploaded to the state computer system. Your policy may have expired without your knowledge, The VIN # on your insurance policy might not match the actual VIN on the vehicle.
Therefore; as required by above law, carry a proof of insurance card.
Trailboss
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Originally posted by SolocamShooter View PostThat is not a true statement. I do not carry proof of insurance and they have always just asked who it was through and run the plate to pull it up. My insurance guy said as long as you stay within the state you're not required to carry it.Originally posted by trailboss View PostYour insurance agent obviously does not know the law.
Sec. 601.053. EVIDENCE OF FINANCIAL RESPONSIBILITY. (a) As a condition of operating in this state a motor vehicle to which Section 601.051 applies, the operator of the vehicle on request shall provide to a peace officer, as defined by Article 2.12, Code of Criminal Procedure, or a person involved in an accident with the operator evidence of financial responsibility by exhibiting:
(1) a motor vehicle liability insurance policy covering the vehicle that satisfies Subchapter D or a photocopy of the policy;
(2) a standard proof of motor vehicle liability insurance form prescribed by the Texas Department of Insurance under Section 601.081 and issued by a liability insurer for the motor vehicle;
(2-a) an image displayed on a wireless communication device that includes the information required by Section 601.081 as provided by a liability insurer;
b) Except as provided by Subsection (c), an operator who does not exhibit evidence of financial responsibility under Subsection (a) is presumed to have operated the vehicle in violation of Section 601.051.
As I stated in above posts, there may be several reasons where the Officer is not able to confirm your coverage by computer. Examples: Your policy may be new and not yet uploaded to the state computer system. Your policy may have expired without your knowledge, The VIN # on your insurance policy might not match the actual VIN on the vehicle.
Therefore; as required by above law, carry a proof of insurance card.
Trailboss
Bisch
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Originally posted by trailboss View PostYour insurance agent obviously does not know the law.
Sec. 601.053. EVIDENCE OF FINANCIAL RESPONSIBILITY. (a) As a condition of operating in this state a motor vehicle to which Section 601.051 applies, the operator of the vehicle on request shall provide to a peace officer, as defined by Article 2.12, Code of Criminal Procedure, or a person involved in an accident with the operator evidence of financial responsibility by exhibiting:
(1) a motor vehicle liability insurance policy covering the vehicle that satisfies Subchapter D or a photocopy of the policy;
(2) a standard proof of motor vehicle liability insurance form prescribed by the Texas Department of Insurance under Section 601.081 and issued by a liability insurer for the motor vehicle;
(2-a) an image displayed on a wireless communication device that includes the information required by Section 601.081 as provided by a liability insurer;
b) Except as provided by Subsection (c), an operator who does not exhibit evidence of financial responsibility under Subsection (a) is presumed to have operated the vehicle in violation of Section 601.051.
As I stated in above posts, there may be several reasons where the Officer is not able to confirm your coverage by computer. Examples: Your policy may be new and not yet uploaded to the state computer system. Your policy may have expired without your knowledge, The VIN # on your insurance policy might not match the actual VIN on the vehicle.
Therefore; as required by above law, carry a proof of insurance card.
Trailboss
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