CFB Week 12 Thread

[Sticks&Strings]

Actually the TV networks already said that adding A&M to the SEC does not do much for the TV networks. Having another team in Texas (UH) in the Houston market would put more eyes on the SEC games and increase the SEC's footprint in Texas. To think that having A&M captures the ENTIRE Texas market is silly.

Look, the reason this was started is two Ags wanted to call out a UT guy for saying he thought UH had a better chance to get into the SEC than the Big 12. After he was called out, he backed up his thinking with a logical post and I added some thoughts to say while likely not possible it's not that far fetched of an idea. In the ever changing landscape of college football when money is driving decisions anything can happen.

Lsu and atm have a huge alumni base in houston. And Aggies have a huge alumni base in Texas. I'd like to see where someone from a TV market says adding uh to the sec adds a substantial viewership to the sec TV market. That's why they added atm, they are the biggest university in Texas that didn't have their own TV deal and brought the state to sec TV market. I haven't seen numbers but I do know that the Aggies TV rankings have been high statewide since joining. Now if we continue to lose, that will plummet quikckly.

Uh is a commuter school with a small percentage of fans that really care about football. Look at their stadium. It's a fact. My dad is a huge uh homer and he would tell you the same. The asian and indian minorities aren't as into sports as whites and blacks. Texas Tech would make more sense TV wise than uh.

I may be wrong though. Been there before.

[Brock Middlebrook]

CFB Week 12 Thread

I am curious to hear more about the A&M / Vandy games from our resident Ags. Doesn't seem to be much talk about the actual games from you fellers.

The line has gone from -10 to -6.5 which means the public is jumping on Vandy. A&M is 0-5 in their last 5 games ATS while Vandy has won 3-2 vs the ATS. I think the public is wrong and A&M smacks them for a 17-21 point win.

Who starts at QB? What is your insider info telling you?

Heath you should bet your house on A&M and give up the points.

The starter is not announced but likely Murray.

Vandy can run the ball and has s good defense.

[160class]

I am curious to hear more about the A&M / Vandy games from our resident Ags. Doesn't seem to be much talk about the actual games from you fellers.

The line has gone from -10 to -6.5 which means the public is jumping on Vandy. A&M is 0-5 in their last 5 games ATS while Vandy has won 3-2 vs the ATS. I think the public is wrong and A&M smacks them for a 17-21 point win.

Who starts at QB? What is your insider info telling you?

Well I'm not sure what to think, it really depends on what offense shows up. I'm not sure who's gonna start and I wouldn't be upset either way, however, of KM starts Spav needs to quit trying to keep him in the pocket and handcuffing him, he's gotta be able to play his game to succeed. He can use his feet to expand the play when it's not there and they have taken that away from him, I hope the D can step up and make them throw the ball, which I think we can do that.

We can beat them, it's just a matter of if we show up or not

[Heath]

Lsu and atm have a huge alumni base in houston. And Aggies have a huge alumni base in Texas. I'd like to see where someone from a TV market says adding uh to the sec adds a substantial viewership to the sec TV market. That's why they added atm, they are the biggest university in Texas that didn't have their own TV deal and brought the state to sec TV market. I haven't seen numbers but I do know that the Aggies TV rankings have been high statewide since joining. Now if we continue to lose, that will plummet quikckly.

Uh is a commuter school with a small percentage of fans that really care about football. Look at their stadium. It's a fact. My dad is a huge uh homer and he would tell you the same. The asian and indian minorities aren't as into sports as whites and blacks. Texas Tech would make more sense TV wise than uh.

Go back and read my arguments for UH joining the league. I am saying IF the SEC thought it was important to get to 16 teams then UH is not a bad option. I am not saying they are going to bring in more eyeballs than A&M but it helps expand their footprint in Texas. The SEC starts to get more of the State of Texas (which is really big) attention by adding another team. What other team (that is available and would want to join) would they go after? What other team brings a TV market? Cincinnati is about the only one I could think of, so if you needed one more team while not try to expand your footprint into the largest state and be a more important part of that state? That is what I am saying.

My main points is IF the SEC wants to expand to get to 16 teams (better scheduling) then Houston might be a good fit. The ACC, PAC, and Big 10 schools are all locked up in Grant of Rights deals so that leaves the SEC with the Big 12, American, and the Independents to pick from for the two teams. If the SEC does expand it I would assume it would want to keep its current divisions of the West / East intact to sustain those long standing rivalry games so adding a team in the West (UH) and team in the East (East Carolina, WVU).

It does not upset the balance of power. It is already a tough league to win, so they wouldn't want to bring in a traditional powerhouse (OU/Texas) to tip the scales anymore. Conferences have to be weighted properly for them to have be successful.

Again, I am not saying its a good idea or a done deal but two Ags wanted to call out a poster for making a silly comment and I personally don't think it was so I made some arguments to back it up. Do I think it is going to happen? Probably not, but it is not a crazy idea. I posed the question if the SEC wanted to get to 16 name the two teams they would take and I still have not heard any names outside of UH and East Carolina thrown out there.

[Sticks&Strings]

I am curious to hear more about the A&M / Vandy games from our resident Ags. Doesn't seem to be much talk about the actual games from you fellers.

The line has gone from -10 to -6.5 which means the public is jumping on Vandy. A&M is 0-5 in their last 5 games ATS while Vandy has won 3-2 vs the ATS. I think the public is wrong and A&M smacks them for a 17-21 point win.

Who starts at QB? What is your insider info telling you?

I'm not confident in much with our team right now except we don't have an identity on offense. We aren't spread, we aren't a power run team. Not sure what you call our offense other than lost or in between two styles.

I think Allen starts or comes in at halftime after Murray struggles.

[bdchorn]

Whatever makes you sleep better at night.

With the ever changing landscape of college athletics I wouldn't say never to one of the market drivers.

Yeah. Remove the LHN from the equation and there's not a conference in the Country that wouldn't welcome UT. I know the rhetoric that A&M would block it, but have never seen it in writing other than message board fodder.

Does Stidham play this week?

[eradicator]

Yeah. Remove the LHN from the equation and there's not a conference in the Country that wouldn't welcome UT. I know the rhetoric that A&M would block it, but have never seen it in writing other than message board fodder.

Does Stidham play this week?

I sure hope so Sic 'em

[CaptainDave]

Lsu and atm have a huge alumni base in houston. And Aggies have a huge alumni base in Texas. I'd like to see where someone from a TV market says adding uh to the sec adds a substantial viewership to the sec TV market. That's why they added atm, they are the biggest university in Texas that didn't have their own TV deal and brought the state to sec TV market. I haven't seen numbers but I do know that the Aggies TV rankings have been high statewide since joining. Now if we continue to lose, that will plummet quikckly.

Uh is a commuter school with a small percentage of fans that really care about football. Look at their stadium. It's a fact. My dad is a huge uh homer and he would tell you the same. The asian and indian minorities aren't as into sports as whites and blacks. Texas Tech would make more sense TV wise than uh.

Houston TV ratings locally -
Houston Nielsens: OU-BU, Ch13, 4.9; Bama-MSt, Ch11, 4.1; Mem-UH, ESPN2, 3.9; Ark-LSU, ESPN, 2.4; WCar-A&M, ESPNU, 1.5; Tx-WVa, ESPNU, 1.9.

Considering where they were not even a decade ago, that's not all that bad. Sure, OU-BU had higher ratings, but that game was on ABC and had CFP implications. National numbers albeit not great are also improving. Rather than throwing out opinion, figured, I'd throw out actual numbers.

National numbers for Memphis game:
SATURDAY, NOVEMBER 14
3.8 5.884M Oklahoma
Baylor 8:07 PM ABC
2.2 3.638M Arkansas
LSU 7:15 PM ESPN
1.7 2.795M Oregon
Stanford 7:35 PM FOX
1.3 1.923M Wash. St.
UCLA 10:45 PM ESPN
— 1.741M Okla. St.
Iowa St. 3:30 PM ESPN
— 1.736M Florida
S. Carolina 12:00 PM ESPN
— 1.006M Maryland
Mich. St. 12:00 PM ESPN2
— 748K Memphis
Houston 7:05 PM ESPN2
— 735K CLEM/SYR
or MICH/IND 3:30 PM ESPN2
— 685K Texas
W. Virginia 12:00 PM ESPNU
— 575K Utah
Arizona 10:00 PM FS1
— 414K K-State
Texas Tech 3:43 PM FS1
— 398K Kansas
TCU 12:00 PM FS1
— 367K Miami
UNC 3:30 PM ESPNU
— 296K W. Carolina
Texas A&M 7:00 PM ESPNU
— 245K Pittsburgh
Duke 12:00 PM ESPNEWS
— 235K New Mexico
Boise St. 10:29 PM ESPNU
— 61K Tulsa
Cincinnati 7:45 PM ESPNEW

[Sticks&Strings]

Go back and read my arguments for UH joining the league. I am saying IF the SEC thought it was important to get to 16 teams then UH is not a bad option. I am not saying they are going to bring in more eyeballs than A&M but it helps expand their footprint in Texas. The SEC starts to get more of the State of Texas (which is really big) attention by adding another team. What other team (that is available and would want to join) would they go after? What other team brings a TV market? Cincinnati is about the only one I could think of, so if you needed one more team while not try to expand your footprint into the largest state and be a more important part of that state? That is what I am saying.

My main points is IF the SEC wants to expand to get to 16 teams (better scheduling) then Houston might be a good fit. The ACC, PAC, and Big 10 schools are all locked up in Grant of Rights deals so that leaves the SEC with the Big 12, American, and the Independents to pick from for the two teams. If the SEC does expand it I would assume it would want to keep its current divisions of the West / East intact to sustain those long standing rivalry games so adding a team in the West (UH) and team in the East (East Carolina, WVU).

It does not upset the balance of power. It is already a tough league to win, so they wouldn't want to bring in a traditional powerhouse (OU/Texas) to tip the scales anymore. Conferences have to be weighted properly for them to have be successful.

Again, I am not saying its a good idea or a done deal but two Ags wanted to call out a poster for making a silly comment and I personally don't think it was so I made some arguments to back it up. Do I think it is going to happen? Probably not, but it is not a crazy idea. I posed the question if the SEC wanted to get to 16 name the two teams they would take and I still have not heard any names outside of UH and East Carolina thrown out there.

I hear you, I just don't agree that UH expands the footprint. Same reason they aren't going to get into the big 12. Doesn't bring any value to the TV markets.

[Heath]

Heath you should bet your house on A&M and give up the points.

The starter is not announced but likely Murray.

Vandy can run the ball and has s good defense.

Oh, I found out in college I am a terrible gambler so I don't bet.

I feel like I have a lot of knowledge on college football and always have, but that does not translate to picking games for me. With that being said…..

My gut tells me that A&M gets out of their offensive funk and plays well. I think the A&M defense stacks the box and forces Vandy to beat yall over the top. If you go back and read all of these threads I typically never make a prediction but I do feel good about this game for the Ags.

[bdchorn]

Houston TV ratings locally -
Houston Nielsens: OU-BU, Ch13, 4.9; Bama-MSt, Ch11, 4.1; Mem-UH, ESPN2, 3.9; Ark-LSU, ESPN, 2.4; WCar-A&M, ESPNU, 1.5; Tx-WVa, ESPNU, 1.9.

Considering where they were not even a decade ago, that's not all that bad. Sure, OU-BU had higher ratings, but that game was on ABC and had CFP implications. National numbers albeit not great are also improving. Rather than throwing out opinion, figured, I'd throw out actual numbers.

National numbers for Memphis game:
SATURDAY, NOVEMBER 14
3.8 5.884M Oklahoma
Baylor 8:07 PM ABC
2.2 3.638M Arkansas
LSU 7:15 PM ESPN
1.7 2.795M Oregon
Stanford 7:35 PM FOX
1.3 1.923M Wash. St.
UCLA 10:45 PM ESPN
— 1.741M Okla. St.
Iowa St. 3:30 PM ESPN
— 1.736M Florida
S. Carolina 12:00 PM ESPN
— 1.006M Maryland
Mich. St. 12:00 PM ESPN2
— 748K Memphis
Houston 7:05 PM ESPN2
— 735K CLEM/SYR
or MICH/IND 3:30 PM ESPN2
— 685K Texas
W. Virginia 12:00 PM ESPNU
— 575K Utah
Arizona 10:00 PM FS1
— 414K K-State
Texas Tech 3:43 PM FS1
— 398K Kansas
TCU 12:00 PM FS1
— 367K Miami
UNC 3:30 PM ESPNU
— 296K W. Carolina
Texas A&M 7:00 PM ESPNU
— 245K Pittsburgh
Duke 12:00 PM ESPNEWS
— 235K New Mexico
Boise St. 10:29 PM ESPNU
— 61K Tulsa
Cincinnati 7:45 PM ESPNEW

Wow.......some surprising numbers in there amongst the Texas schools.

[Kmart49]

I sure hope so Sic 'em

You and me both!

[Sticks&Strings]

Houston TV ratings locally -
Houston Nielsens: OU-BU, Ch13, 4.9; Bama-MSt, Ch11, 4.1; Mem-UH, ESPN2, 3.9; Ark-LSU, ESPN, 2.4; WCar-A&M, ESPNU, 1.5; Tx-WVa, ESPNU, 1.9.

Considering where they were not even a decade ago, that's not all that bad. Sure, OU-BU had higher ratings, but that game was on ABC and had CFP implications. National numbers albeit not great are also improving. Rather than throwing out opinion, figured, I'd throw out actual numbers.

National numbers for Memphis game:
SATURDAY, NOVEMBER 14
3.8 5.884M Oklahoma
Baylor 8:07 PM ABC
2.2 3.638M Arkansas
LSU 7:15 PM ESPN
1.7 2.795M Oregon
Stanford 7:35 PM FOX
1.3 1.923M Wash. St.
UCLA 10:45 PM ESPN
— 1.741M Okla. St.
Iowa St. 3:30 PM ESPN
— 1.736M Florida
S. Carolina 12:00 PM ESPN
— 1.006M Maryland
Mich. St. 12:00 PM ESPN2
— 748K Memphis
Houston 7:05 PM ESPN2
— 735K CLEM/SYR
or MICH/IND 3:30 PM ESPN2
— 685K Texas
W. Virginia 12:00 PM ESPNU
— 575K Utah
Arizona 10:00 PM FS1
— 414K K-State
Texas Tech 3:43 PM FS1
— 398K Kansas
TCU 12:00 PM FS1
— 367K Miami
UNC 3:30 PM ESPNU
— 296K W. Carolina
Texas A&M 7:00 PM ESPNU
— 245K Pittsburgh
Duke 12:00 PM ESPNEWS
— 235K New Mexico
Boise St. 10:29 PM ESPNU
— 61K Tulsa
Cincinnati 7:45 PM ESPNEW

One week. Give me season stats or last 5 years. I watched much of the uh game last week too. If that game was on at the same time a ranked aggie or longhorn vs. Another ranked team was on, guess what, the viewership would have been way down.

[Heath]

One week. Give me season stats or last 5 years. I watched much of the uh game last week too. If that game was on at the same time a ranked aggie or longhorn vs. Another ranked team was on, guess what, the viewership would have been way down.

But on the flip side is if they are in the SEC, a UH-Bama game would have more people in Texas watching the game than UK-Bama. By adding another Texas team, the SEC becomes more important to more people in Texas. That is my point I was making.

There just aren't that many teams out there that bring a significant TV market so you start looking for ways to pickup viewers in another manner.

[Sticks&Strings]

Actually the TV networks already said that adding A&M to the SEC does not do much for the TV networks. Having another team in Texas (UH) in the Houston market would put more eyes on the SEC games and increase the SEC's footprint in Texas. To think that having A&M captures the ENTIRE Texas market is silly.

Look, the reason this was started is two Ags wanted to call out a UT guy for saying he thought UH had a better chance to get into the SEC than the Big 12. After he was called out, he backed up his thinking with a logical post and I added some thoughts to say while likely not possible it's not that far fetched of an idea. In the ever changing landscape of college football when money is driving decisions anything can happen.

Lsu and atm have a huge alumni base in houston. And Aggies have a huge alumni base in Texas. I'd like to see where someone from a TV market says adding uh to the sec adds a substantial viewership to the sec TV market. That's why they added atm, they are the biggest university in Texas that didn't have their own TV deal and brought the state to sec TV market. I haven't seen numbers but I do know that the Aggies TV rankings have been high statewide since joining. Now if we continue to lose, that will plummet quikckly.

Uh is a commuter school with a small percentage of fans that really care about football. Look at their stadium. It's a fact. My dad is a huge uh homer and he would tell you the same. The asian and indian minorities aren't as into sports as whites and blacks. Texas Tech would make more sense TV wise than uh.

But on the flip side is if they are in the SEC, a UH-Bama game would have more people in Texas watching the game than UK-Bama. By adding another Texas team, the SEC becomes more important to more people in Texas. That is my point I was making.

There just aren't that many teams out there that bring a significant TV market so you start looking for ways to pickup viewers in another manner.

Ok. I can see that. I think we both agree though uh won't be in the sec or big 12.