CFB Week 12 Thread

[krisw]

Hawaii and University of Anchorage.....ROAD TRIP!!!!!

That would be crazy.

[Heath]

OU and UT. [emoji41]

I know you are kidding but OSU and OU are tied through legislation so they can't split.

[Brock Middlebrook]

The ACC Grant of Rights they signed will make it very tough to add those teams.

If they can get around the GOR...

Do you send one to the West and one to the East? Do they send Vandy to the West?

I think OU / OSU to the SEC makes sense and send Bama to the East. Helps balances the East / West. I'm not sure it adds the TV eyes they would be looking for though.

I like the 4 team pod system with the 16 team league.

OU and OSU would be interesting, but I don't think they would take both.

If you assume the ACC and Big 12 is untouchable and stay away from current states, you have to look at East Carolina as one.

My vote still try to get a Virginia and NC school.

[Heath]

I like the 4 team pod system with the 16 team league.

OU and OSU would be interesting, but I don't think they would take both.

If you assume the ACC and Big 12 is untouchable and stay away from current states, you have to look at East Carolina as one.

My vote still try to get a Virginia and NC school.

Why are you staying away from current states? I assume cause you are saying it's the brotherhood of protecting your territory but I bet if a team grab started happening and they needed UH it would be approved.

East Carolina and UH would be an easy fit.

[18ncs]

It could likely come out of North Carolina or Virginia.

This was certainly the idea once but the time for that may have passed. You could have blown the whole conference up a few years back.

The ACC Grant of Rights they signed will make it very tough to add those teams.

If they can get around the GOR...

Do you send one to the West and one to the East? Do they send Vandy to the West?

I think OU / OSU to the SEC makes sense and send Bama to the East. Helps balances the East / West. I'm not sure it adds the TV eyes they would be looking for though.

That's all I want for Christmas.

[EastTexasMan]

UH isn't going to be added to the big 12. It doesn't add tv sets or anything else. Unless the Big 12 wants to add someone else to beat Kansas, it won't happen.



There's actually not a chance of them going to the sec either in my mind. I get that you people are constantly on the lookout for perceived insults to your school and new conference. But alas, it wasn't a dig. Again, it doesn't expand the footprint.



If it doesn't make dollars, it doesn't make sense.



Unless the sec wanted to get a couple of more teams that would almost be a gimme for the top half of the conference. Be like Kentucky.

Oh I'm not worried about your digs, I'm more curious what would make someone think the SEC would benefit from adding UH. I guess what you meant was there is 0.01% chance of them going to the big 12 and 0.015% chance of them going to the SEC. Big 12 needs to expand the SEC doesn't and uh doesn't add much value wise in tvs, money, or academics. Revenue split would almost over weigh what they bring to the table. Not really but u get my point. If the SEC expands from 14 teams it'll be becuause it benefits them enough to do so. Big 12 has 10 members, so therefore Houston has a better shot at joining the big 12, but idc either way where they go.

[Rush2Judge]

I believe the SEC would jump at the chance to take another big market Texas team. I think only one school fills that bill. Two Oklahoma schools does not equal more revenue. It's kind of sad but, as Heath has pointed out, this has nothing to do what the fans want or even what would be good for football.

[Brock Middlebrook]

Why are you staying away from current states? I assume cause you are saying it's the brotherhood of protecting your territory but I bet if a team grab started happening and they needed UH it would be approved.

East Carolina and UH would be an easy fit.

I don't think there looking to expand but if they do, there not adding a school as close to A&M as UH and I don't think Texas would ever get approved.

I like the 14 team conference but wish the permanent cross division rival would go away and they would move to 9 games.

[RLB]

I don't think there looking to expand but if they do, there not adding a school as close to A&M as UH and I don't think Texas would ever get approved.

I like the 14 team conference but wish the permanent cross division rival would go away and they would move to 9 games.

Whoever it is, A&M has to approve.....we have the hammer on who comes in and it won't be another Texas team.....period!!

[Heath]

Oh I'm not worried about your digs, I'm more curious what would make someone think the SEC would benefit from adding UH. I guess what you meant was there is 0.01% chance of them going to the big 12 and 0.015% chance of them going to the SEC. Big 12 needs to expand the SEC doesn't and uh doesn't add much value wise in tvs, money, or academics. Revenue split would almost over weigh what they bring to the table. Not really but u get my point. If the SEC expands from 14 teams it'll be becuause it benefits them enough to do so. Big 12 has 10 members, so therefore Houston has a better shot at joining the big 12, but idc either way where they go.

Man, everything is not a dig against A&M and/or the SEC. Th fact that UH may have a better chance to join the SEC vs Big 12 is not knock on the SEC.

Ad explained above, the benefits of UH helps them get away from the odd 14 team league scheduling and a bigger foot print in Texas. The TV networks already said while A&M is in Texas it doesn't bring the entire Texas market. Having another team in Texas helps that. It also helps keep the current divisions in the SEC and allows a team like previously mentioned East Carolina join the East.

If you are going to expand to get away from the 14 team schedule it's going to have to come from the American, Big 12, or Indy.

Why does the Big 12 HAVE to expand? Why does UH make sense?

[Heath]

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Whoever it is, A&M has to approve.....we have the hammer on who comes in and it won't be another Texas team.....period!!

So A&M has the ability to tell the SEC what it's going to do?

I understand the gentlemen's agreement and the majority vote but if your options are limited and you need to get to 16 that hammer might not be as powerful as you think.

[Brock Middlebrook]

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So A&M has the ability to tell the SEC what it's going to do?

I understand the gentlemen's agreement and the majority vote but if your options are limited and you need to get to 16 that hammer might not be as powerful as you think.

There is no "need" to get to 16. The SEC has a title game and the winner goes to the playoff.

Yes, you wont see Texas in the SEC because of A&M.

[Heath]

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There is no "need" to get to 16. The SEC has a title game and the winner goes to the playoff.

Yes, you want see Texas in the SEC because of A&M.

The need to get to 16 comes from the scheduling issue and that came from Slive. The SEC didn't need to go to 14 by adding A&M and Mizzou but they did.
I'm not saying the SEC needs to go to 16, we are talking hypotheticals if they do.

From what I understand it's a 75% approval for a new member. If Texas brings say an additional $5-10M per team and 75% of the schools want the extra money, sorry Ags.

[Brock Middlebrook]

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The need to get to 16 comes from the scheduling issue and that came from Slive. The SEC didn't need to go to 14 by adding A&M and Mizzou but they did.
I'm not saying the SEC needs to go to 16, we are talking hypotheticals if they do.

From what I understand it's a 75% approval for a new member. If Texas brings say an additional $5-10M per team and 75% of the schools want the extra money, sorry Ags.

The Big 12 is not going away like a giant fart cloud and is here to stay, so we will likely never know if the SEC wants Texas now that they picked A&M.

The chances and need of any expansion is likely with the Big 12 over any other power 5 conference.

[Heath]

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The Big 12 is not going away like a giant fart cloud and is here to stay, so we will likely never know if the SEC wants Texas now that they picked A&M.

The chances and need of any expansion is likely with the Big 12 over any other power 5 conference.

I can see it both ways. IF the Big 12 needs to expand then it has to look at the American or the Independents (best option) and I don't see that many great options. They missed their chance when those ACC schools were on the fence and wanted to leave the basketball schools.

I can also see it blowing up to form 4 16 team Super Conferences.

4 teams to PAC (Texas, Tech, BU, TCU).
2 teams to SEC (OU, OSU).
2 teams to Big 10 (KU, KSU).
2 teams to ACC (WVU, ISU).