Anyone have a problem with

[Swampa]

Like I said in not bashing hunting....I was unsure of how you take a African animal, what they do with the meat, how you hunt over there and over all experience..from what little I have seen on outdoor networks it looms pretty rigged and very pointless...but if money meat go into supporting the villages and there is sport I have been poorly misinformed. But still if given the chance couldn't drawn on most animals...not even a bear I dont think...

That's great, but go back and read your first post with an unbiased mind!!

[Twztid]

My "pen" and "pointless" is opinionated on what I have seen..came across that picture and just wondered...I was looking for first hand experience to over shadow the ease of tv shows how the just go out there and 2 mins later a trophy walks out..I was looking for info more than a fight

[Lonebowyer]

Twztid, you ever shoot a coon or squirrel?

[cbrown]

Surprised this is still here.......

[nathank]

I have a riding lawn mower!!!!!!

[double lung]

Surprised this is still here.......

I'm sure the OP would like to see it go away as well

[muzzyman]

Had a buddy go hunting in africa and they kept the meat over there for the villagers

[Smart]

No interest in shooting a giraffe, elephant, hippo, rhino or zebra....doesn't make it wrong. It just doesn't turn my crank.

[Landrover]

But what kinda dude gets kicks off of shooting a giraffe what do you do with it? What's the point? Do they eat it? Are you proud of it?

I for one! I took a HUGE one last year with my bow. Yes, we ate alot of it but I had giraffe when I was a student living in KENYA and knew it was very good. Absoulutely incredible animal and the toughest beast I ever thwacked with an arrow.

Wow

I am absolutely amazed at what you just wrote, it is quite obvious that you don't know anything about Africa. "Wildlife Pen" you can't possibly beleive that.
That would be like saying that in the hole USA, all animals are hunted in small pens, including elk, wild sheep, ect.
Spend 10-20 days in a row tracking elephant 10 to 30 miles a day in the gusu sand when it is close to 100 degrees and tell me it is like shooting them in a pen. I have 2 friends that were tusked by ele's, one spent 6 months in a hospital the other is dead.

Some people have problems with hunting lions, wild lions and the breeder stock that is being killed off in South Africa is not even close to being the same.

South Africa is a lot like Texas there are many high fence places that you can hunt most anything, some wild some not so much. Most of africa is not fenced

On my two trips to bowhunt there I have been totally amazed. I expect to make at least 3 more trips as I start my quest for the Big 5 with my bow. I am far from wealthy but I plan & save for what my passions are.......family & bowhunting!!!

Lot of the meat in south Africa is sold to meat markets that then sell to the public. They know we can't bring it back. So they cook some for your meals and then sell the rest. It helps keep hunt costs lower.

This would be correcto!

I have never done it but I think it is the best thing since sliced bread.....

Do you know why the wildlife populations in some parts of Africa are increasing? Because some bright person decided to start allowing sport hunting. When they did that it dramatically increased the value of the animals. With the money raised they were able to fight poaching. It also benefited the local people, so they in turn started trying to stop the poaching. It is a renewable resource and everyone has benefited from their hunting....except for poachers.

-john

This has been known for decades!!! Makes me wonder how the OP did not know this if he watches the shows on cable?

Where oh where should I begin.... Your ignorance (note I said ignorance, not stupidity) of the game animals, operations and societal impacts of the hunting industry in Africa is quite apparent.

The food, employment, and financial investment associated with hunting in Africa often represents a large component of these countries' GDP. Many of these countries have limited infrastructure/growth, little to no employment opportunity and thousands of protein deprived people. The hunting industry provides all of these things to individuals.

I have been fortunate to hunt in Africa for a total of 107 days (7 trips) in 4 different countries. I have killed 42 large animals repesenting 18 species including plains game, buffalo, elephant, leopard and hippo, and not one was wasted. Either the clients, staff or locals ate some portion or all of these animals. This often included entrails and bones.

The money I spent and/or gifted to the operators, staff and families was put to use in many ways. These employees used it to buy essentials for their children, put food on the table, and pay for family members to go to school. The operators/owners used it to pay rents, perform improvements on the property and employ other individuals (professional hunters, trackers, game scouts, camp managers, cooks, maids, mechanics, anti-poaching security teams). How can that be "pointless"?

Lastly, I received priceless memories with friends and family doing something we all love and have a passion for. How can that be "pointless"?

I strongly encourage you to become more informed and educated about this topic before exposing your ignorance via poorly thought out ponderings and judgemental statements.

I don't have to say another word in that vain! Thank u sir!!

I hunt to put meat on my familys table?
I am not as well off as you and cannot yet afford to go to africa for a hunt.
Maybe I dont care to associate with those types anyway...

WTH???? R u actually serious when u type? Congrats on being a meat hunter that is not able to currently afford Africa and who would not want to assoicate with folks that can. Wow........these reeks of "whoa is me"!

but once again I ask and get a holes like you who cant answer a question with out having something to prove..just wish some of you guys had the nuts to talk to me like from not behind your keyboard

would u beat those "a-holes" up with your fist or shoot them if u met them? R u seriously talking trash because your entire premise of African hunting has been slammed in your face?

I also went to wyoming last year for a muley/antelope hunt. we donated the meat, is that bad?

Not trying to bash you here, but do think about what and who you are implicating before you start a thread, and how it is worded. It can get out of hand fast

I donate about 4-5 deer per year........every year!!! So going over the big pond doing the same thing is worth the time and effort. I agree with your note that folks may want to think before posting.

If your new and dont know and want to learn dont use such a condesending tone in your original post. Then you would get more straight answers from everyone. When you ask a question that insults everyone who has done something you dont agree with expect to get hosed.

Absoulutely! U were not asking.......you were condeming!

Personally I hope the thread stays. It has a lot of good information in it....

Twztid there is no problem in being uniformed. The problem starts when you have already formed your opinion, and let your opinion be known before you were informed.....The way you "asked" your question implied that you were against it and hence the responses that you received.

-john

U nailed it again John!

still dont know what it is (havent searched)... just looks really cool, and I bet it tastes good!

Gemsbock! I have one from the Kahlarhari Dessert region on the Namibian/South African border. Tastes pretty good but not better than zebra & giraffe!

Sir, if you expect for one minute anyone to believe this, you are more ignorant than your thread would indicate. I've seen your posts over the time you have been a member, and the vast majority of your posts are negative in nature, and you sir are a pot stirrer that no one would miss if you chose to go post on some other forum as you add little to nothing on this one.

Thanks Charlie! It is exactly what he was doing.

[glpoe1]

The same could be said of every animal taken I Africa.
The hunter only gets to return with hides and horns, no meat.
But I'm sure they eat a steak while they are there.

Also, I was under the impression that all hunts in Africa were high fence.
(hundreds of thousands of acres, but still high fenced)

All that said, I say who cares.
It is a hunt for enjoyment and trophies.
Think of it as if a hunter in Texas filled all his deer tags but donated all the meat to hunters for the hungry.


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THIS. The same could be said for hunting over a feeder for the defensless little deer, little pigs, cute birds, etc. I think we better be careful about complaining of the way others hunt and honestly look at how we hunt here. I have seen a lot of post about hunting over a feeder / just killing or is it really hunting. Hunting in HF property, etc.

[reddogdan]

Ah, you ain't lived to you've had a big plate of Grandma's giraffe and dumplings. Elephant poppers and chicken fried hippo...man, you ain't lived!

Blew diet coke thru my nose and all over mybow dang it


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[Mike Javi Cooper]

I know some are going to take offense to this comment. I often see the folks that can't afford it are the ones who disagree are don't think it would be enjoyable. For all of you who have the money to go out and do it, enjoy and share all your stories and pics. I would be wiling to bet that the " I am only a meat hunter" crowd wouldn't turn down an all expenses paid trip to Africa to hunt a trophy elephant.

You’d lose that bet with me... I don’t have a problem with someone hunting in Africa but I have absolutely no desire to travel halfway around the world to kill an animal, there are plenty here in North America that I haven’t killed yet. So yes I’d turn down a free African hunt, not because of some silly idea that it’s wrong to kill an animal but because I have no desire to visit Africa or even Europe for that matter...

If I had the money or was gifted the money I’d much rather spend it on a drop camp in BC or Alaska…

[Cabela]

I have a riding lawn mower!!!!!!

I have a zero turn and I'm better than you.


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[Mike Javi Cooper]

Like I said in not bashing hunting....I was unsure of how you take a African animal, what they do with the meat, how you hunt over there and over all experience..from what little I have seen on outdoor networks it looms pretty rigged and very pointless...but if money meat go into supporting the villages and there is sport I have been poorly misinformed. But still if given the chance couldn't drawn on most animals...not even a bear I dont think...

You don’t honestly “Believe” what you see on those silly TV hunting shows do you… Like the producer of a TTHA show I was in said when I asked him about staging the hunting scenes…. Loosely based on the truth… you were hunting…. An animal was killed…. The rest is made up to make good TV…

[mgbuff]

I have a zero turn and I'm better than you.


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i cant afford one of them so its wrong to use it!
and about the broadhead question. anything but a rage i heard they make tiny holes