Grayson I am correct to assume that you assume most ranches in south texas with high fences are between 50 and 300 acres, you said that many times, and that is what makes it "easy". I wonder how many big deer north texas would be shoot every year if the average age of a harvested buck was 5.5 instead of 2.5. I am not sure on those numbers but would guess the average buck in south texas killed was 5.5 and north texas 2.5. Am I way off with that number. Protein helps but age is the biggest factor in seeing big bucks and yes the fence helps control the overall age structure of your herd. I get almost as excited passing a 3.5 or 4.5 in the 60's that I do shooting a mature deer. It is nice to have a management plan in place and not have to worry about what your 8 neighboors on 50 acres tracts are doing. Also due to the extreme weather conditions of south texas, 105 degree days all long and 17-24 inches of rain a year i bet mother nature takes a lot more deer in south texas than she does in north texas. Last but not least if deer densities was the answer for big bucks, the hill country did not get that memo.
On a side note I do agree that with a low fence you have an element of unknown every time you go out on what you might see, but so do the neighbors and you have to hope they dont shoot the one you passed yesterday.
My family and I own 2600 acres and I've seen 12 new bucks I have never seen before this season. I mean ever.
On a draw Bsills, I'd take the king every single time.
Last question for all, if there was a draw hunt and you were drawn and had a choice to hunt the hagerman or the king ranch what would you choose?
Here is my question, who has killed the biggest out of everyone who has posted on this thread? IMO he is the winner of the arguement...I don't care how long you have been hunting or whose uncle, dad, or relative killed this deer and that deer, just out of the people on this thread.
Here is my question, who has killed the biggest out of everyone who has posted on this thread? IMO he is the winner of the arguement...I don't care how long you have been hunting or whose uncle, dad, or relative killed this deer and that deer, just out of the people on this thread.
by that argument, it would be the amish farmer who killed a deer in the best buy parking lot in Katy after it had been hit by a UPS truck and killed 14 goats.
Here is my question, who has killed the biggest out of everyone who has posted on this thread? IMO he is the winner of the arguement...I don't care how long you have been hunting or whose uncle, dad, or relative killed this deer and that deer, just out of the people on this thread.
Here is my question, who has killed the biggest out of everyone who has posted on this thread? IMO he is the winner of the arguement...I don't care how long you have been hunting or whose uncle, dad, or relative killed this deer and that deer, just out of the people on this thread.
As soon as Encinal decides to chime in I guess this is a done deal then huh??? SoTX it is...... Pow!
the reason grayson county still has big deer is beause it is archery only....with the numerous small properties; hunters that out number the deer 10 to 1; the bow only thing helps even the score. At the end of the day if I had to pick South Texas for sure; but give North Texas it's due I am constantly surprised off all the big deer I hear about in Grayson County and yes the Hagerman is their refuge. But if the question is would you be more impressed with a 200" buck on the Comanche ranch (Maverick county) or a 200" buck on a couple of hundred in acres in Grayson county. Grayson wins that argument.. I qualify this with the fact that i have huntred both the comanche (farias) and hagerman. Hagerman is way harder
They are so hard to come by in grayson that is why south texas draws a bigger crowd and gets more money. They exist in good numbers, that's why you go to south.
this is funny - Grayson NEVER said that there were more big bucks in North Texas than there are in South Texas. Why is everyone acting like he did? He VERY plainly stated that all things being equal deer number wise and fencing wise, that North Texas has the ability to produce just as many big deer as South Texas does. I would not jump out there and say that North Texas would produce AS many big deer, but the gap between the number of big deer would go WAAAAYYYY down I assure you. I think the native vegitation in South Texas is just better (in places) and provides better natural groceries for the deer to stay healthy and grow bigger horns, but I assure you that they are not just eating dirt up here in this part of the state.
Oh, and there are several deer contest in North Texas, they are just not big contest like your South Texas Contest are, more or less your typical feed store or hunting supply store big buck contests that end up having 50-100 total entries for the season.
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