Just wondering what the golden triangle is?

[kyle1974]

It's not THE prime area but it is A prime area.

From all the pics on here, I Would have to say Grayson county should hold that title..For Outstanding Bucks....What are you guys feeding them down their ?

Not all Los Cazadores entries come out of south Texas, but yes, most do. Now that I think about it, maybe THAT'S why they added a new rule that you have to bring in the antlers with the cape still on the head? I thought it was for the Open division, but maybe there's another reason.

Per capita, North central Texas and the Panhandle can go toe-to-toe with South Texas, they (we) just don't have the sheer numbers of deer. And like you say with South Texas, there are lots of big deer killed every year up here that don't get reported. And the South Texas guys hate it when I say this, but in most cases up north it's done without the assistance of a HF, so that element has really changed the game in S Tx.

But anyway, the guy asked about the golden triangle. I think it's a little bigger than the picture posted above.

this is probably where it came from Codie...

some are saying that the trophy deer frequency is just as good in north texas as it is in south texas

we have all seen photos of huge deer taken from north texas, but to say the frequency of big bucks is the same..... not buying it.

[Burnadell]

Girls, girls, girls! Enough already. No more of this "my dad can whip your dad" and "I hunt in a better area than you do" stuff. Who cares? Only a few of us are truly fortunate enough to live in the premier hunting paradise of Texas....Northeast Texas!

The rest of you quit with the playground bragging. It is childish and tiring.

This is what we kill up here in the REAL buck hotspot!

[Grayson]

I don't understand what you Yanks are trying to say is your argument. You all agree that per capita The South has more big bucks, the largest "score wise" bucks % based have come from the South, and the largest for that matter. Being there are more acres per man down South it is deducted there is less hunting pressure.

I fail to see where the argument that the North is the premier hunting spot in Texas. Follow the money, leases costs on the whole more in South Texas than anywhere else in the State. There is a reason it costs more.

On the HF issue, that is invalid. Percentage wise, acreage for acreage the percent high to low across the entire state is marginal and no one could truly put a real number on that.

So if the prosecution can come forward with any evidence other than speculation the defense would like to move that the judge and Jury dismiss this measuring contest on the fact that the prosecution has brought no substantial evidence to the case.

At this time the defense would also like to congratulate the North on all of their kills as a trophy is a trophy no matter where it is killed. Seriously. No one should discredit that.


Your honor, the defense rests.

Huh what? No.

As to the second bold, no one's made that argument. Not even Kyle, in trying to find it in others' posts. Not sure I quite understand how he can say that anyone's arguing N Texas is better, while at the same time saying....

some are saying that the trophy deer frequency is just as good in north texas as it is in south texas

Serious logic fail.

[Codie]

Kyle1974 - the only comment that you quoted that says anything about North Texas BEING BETTER than South Texas is Warrior62's post. I must have missed that one when I was reading through the thread.

I think anybody in the State of Texas would agree that all being as is, South Texas is THE premier place to be hunting to have a chance at a big whitetail. All that is being stated by Grayson is that, (all things being equal, fences, deer numbers, etc.) that North Texas would compete toe-2-toe with South Texas as far as number of trophy class whitetails being killed on a daily basis. North Texas numbers would not change, since they are (mostly) low fenced and lower deer numbers, but if you took away most of the high fences throughout South Texas and took away half of the deer population to make it's numbers comparable with North Texas' numbers, it would not be producing the overwhelming number of trophy class deer that it is currently. No doubt that it would STILL be 1 of the, if not THE premier area in the state to hunt even in those circumstances and there would still be plenty of trophy class animals killed.

Common sense tells us that this will never happen, and that (as aironeout has stated) the more likely outcome is that North Texas will continue to put up more and more HF over the years and will eventually be as South Texas is today when it comes to trophy class animals, where South Texas will be at that time? WHO KNOWS?

[BIG IRON]

Girls, girls, girls! Enough already. No more of this "my dad can whip your dad" and "I hunt in a better area than you do" stuff. Who cares? Only a few of us are truly fortunate enough to live in the premier hunting paradise of Texas....Northeast Texas!

The rest of you quit with the playground bragging. It is childish and tiring.

This is what we kill up here in the REAL buck hotspot!

That was killed by a truck hunter so it doesn't count

[kyle1974]

Huh what? No.

As to the second bold, no one's made that argument. Not even Kyle, in trying to find it in others' posts. Not sure I quite understand how he can say that anyone's arguing N Texas is better, while at the same time saying....

Serious logic fail.

LOL.,... I'm sorry. I guess I misunderstood your statement of grayson county going "toe to toe" and "per capita" having just as many big deer to mean something else?

did I say you said it was better? it was a good 20 - 30 minutes ago, but I could have sworn I said "some are saying that the trophy deer frequency is just as good in north texas as it is in south texas .... so I guess "toe to toe" doesn't mean "just as good"? So when you said it was jsut as good, you didn't mean it was just as good? you meant it was.....

serious logic fail? at least I can remember what I said.

as far as the HF excuse once again...I guess no one bothered to look at low fence entries in the numerous deer contests across south texas. The overall percentage of south texas that is under HF is small compared to the total acreage. You can speculate that HF has changed the game, but the reality is the big deer were already there... the HF just allows the opportunity for the deer to reach their full potential.

[mesquitecountry]

Kyle1974 - the only comment that you quoted that says anything about North Texas BEING BETTER than South Texas is Warrior62's post. I must have missed that one when I was reading through the thread.

I think anybody in the State of Texas would agree that all being as is, South Texas is THE premier place to be hunting to have a chance at a big whitetail. All that is being stated by Grayson is that, (all things being equal, fences, deer numbers, etc.) that North Texas would compete toe-2-toe with South Texas as far as number of trophy class whitetails being killed on a daily basis. North Texas numbers would not change, since they are (mostly) low fenced and lower deer numbers, but if you took away most of the high fences throughout South Texas and took away half of the deer population to make it's numbers comparable with North Texas' numbers, it would not be producing the overwhelming number of trophy class deer that it is currently. No doubt that it would STILL be 1 of the, if not THE premier area in the state to hunt even in those circumstances and there would still be plenty of trophy class animals killed.

Common sense tells us that this will never happen, and that (as aironeout has stated) the more likely outcome is that North Texas will continue to put up more and more HF over the years and will eventually be as South Texas is today when it comes to trophy class animals, where South Texas will be at that time? WHO KNOWS?

Cody, to summarize your second paragraph. If South Texas would be half as good as it is then North Texas would be better than South Texas. LOL. You're saying paint South Texas with less numbers then compare. LOL. So let's create a false world argument and then go with it. Hahahahaha!

Okay, to make this even more absurd, remove Hagerman and the contiguous properties. Then how many fair would it be.


Reminds me of this statement.

It isn’t pollution that’s harming the environment. It’s the impurities in
our air and water that are doing it..”
–Al Gore, Vice President

You lawyers can try to word it all you want, your argument or whatever you are trying to argue is a moving target that only you are understanding.


Can we get a simple paragraph what it is you are trying to argue? As it's moving faster than a coyote being chased by a BP helo.

[kyle1974]

so everyone agrees that south texas is better... but north texas is just as good and can go toe to toe, but it's not better.... but it is better because everyone hunts on 46 acres and it's harder, but haggerman refuge has nothing to do with the deer killed there, but per capita there are just as many trophy deer, but it's not better, but it is just as good, which makes it better since it's all low fence?

I think Igot it now.

[mesquitecountry]

so everyone agrees that south texas is better... but north texas is just as good and can go toe to toe, but it's not better.... but it is better because everyone hunts on 46 acres and it's harder, but haggerman refuge has nothing to do with the deer killed there, but per capita there are just as many trophy deer, but it's not better, but it is just as good, which makes it better since it's all low fence?

I think Igot it now.

Bwahahahhahahahaha!

[VorTexan]

Girls, girls, girls! Enough already. No more of this "my dad can whip your dad" and "I hunt in a better area than you do" stuff. Who cares? Only a few of us are truly fortunate enough to live in the premier hunting paradise of Texas....Northeast Texas!

The rest of you quit with the playground bragging. It is childish and tiring.

This is what we kill up here in the REAL buck hotspot!

B please don't post that pic.


People go to South Texas because they hunting in MUCH easier. Sendero, Feeder, box blind, 300 rifle pick the one you want.


"my guide dropped me off, told me not to shoot the little one's and he would be back in half an hour to pick me and the buck up for the contest"


Carry on guys.

I will give the North props as it get's cold and windy there and you have to find the drainage ditch where the bucks hang out.


pulled pin, grenade thrown.


jk guys I've enjoyed reading the thread.

[mesquitecountry]

B please don't post that pic.


People go to South Texas because they hunting in MUCH easier. Sendero, Feeder, box blind, 300 rifle pick the one you want.


"my guide dropped me off, told me not to shoot the little one's and he would be back in half an hour to pick me and the buck up for the contest"


Carry on guys.

I will give the North props as it get's cold and windy there and you have to find the drainage ditch where the bucks hang out.


pulled pin, grenade thrown.


jk guys I've enjoyed reading the thread.

Cold, haha, wind, haha. No corn in North Texas, haha. No HF in North Texas. Haha.

[crowmagnum]

Just checking in for North Texas.

[kyle1974]

I heard that box blinds and deer feeders are banned north of I20 and all deer are shot from horseback while chasing the deer through open plains....with a recurve... with handmade arrows.

crowmag, mule deer aren't relavent to this topic! LOL (we dont' have those down south).

awesome deer dude, those are all studs for sure!

[crowmagnum]

I heard that box blinds and deer feeders are banned north of I20 and all deer are shot from horseback while chasing the deer through open plains....with a recurve... with handmade arrows.

You must have heard that on 2 cool! What up Kyle?Real nice "9" pointer you posted.Hf or Awwww nevermind.lol!

[mesquitecountry]

Just checking in for North Texas.

Nice bucks bud. Seriously.