Man lying down with hands up shot by cops

[Grumpy1911]

Bet there is more to the story..

[twobanger]

Wow did the special needs person even get hit?

No thank god. The last thing the world needed to see were the last moments of a person so special needs that they were playing with a truck making vroom-vroom noises while cops are screaming and pointing rifles at him.

[Artos]

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Pretty big target to be missed!! Getting weird!!

[thebomb6_99]

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Pretty big target to be missed!! Getting weird!!

My point is the cops say they were shooting at the special needs kid/guy which is already wrong! But the hit the other guy. Who has ever shot a gun before? My wife was breaking clays with my AR the first time she ever shot it. Who misses that bad? Sad all the way around thank god no one is dead.

[Junkers88]

So someone calls 911 saying that there is a person sitting outside who wants to commit suicide. The cops show up, find a guy sitting on the ground apparently planning to kill himself with a white toy truck and engage him with deadly force. Now it's been a while since I've been deployed and even longer since I've been shot at but I recall that deadly force isn't authorized to stop someone from committing suicide. Regardless the cops couldn't hit the guy sitting on the ground and instead hit the guy next to him laying there with his hands in the air??? Are you freaking kidding me?

Richard.

[VarmintRod]

I think accidental discharge most likely. Be interesting to see if more video comes out. Glad for man who was shot that it was in the leg and not more serious.

The cop shot the guy four times....accidental discharge??

[Roscoe]

Man lying down with hands up shot by cops

The cop shot the guy four times....accidental discharge??

Guy who was shot, in his video interview says he was hit once and it felt like a "mesquito bite."

Was he actually shot 4 times? Were there even 4 shots fired?

[Slew]

Conspiracy theory!!! Obama probably planned all this to bring a bigger shadow on LE. Cop probably gets whisked away to some island unless Hillary has him killed and the guy that got shot cashes in and goes traveling with Al and Jessie speaking about injustice.

Or sometimes some crazy **** just happens and who the hell knows what the truth is but neither seems too far fetched anymore sadly.


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[oktx]

Just read on Twitter that the cop was shooting at the guy sitting up and missed and hit the guy laying down. According to cop.

[tvc184]

We had an officer about 15 years ago almost shoot a woman's leg off from a screw up.

Two officers were clearing a house where a neighbor stated a shotgun blast was heard from inside. The officers found the door open and entered. One officer did not follow what he was taught and had his finger on the trigger when he was searching the house. He opened a door and it scared a cat off of the bed. The officer flinched.... with his finger on the trigger.... and the shot that he fired hit the woman sleeping in her bed in the tibia.

The officer was terminated almost immediately and the city wrote her a check for the limit that the state allows, which I think was $500,000.

Which is a glaring example of why your finger is not on the trigger unless you are about to shoot and you know your target.

[TxNurse]

Sounds like a royal screw-up. Officers should have assessed what was going on before going into Keystone Cop swat mode. A white gun--really?

[Man]

So he was shooting at a autistic with the toy truck? While the other guy next to him was explaining the situation safely. Thats ridiculous. Can you imagine if he would have hit the helpless autistic person with the toy truck!!!??? Caller misinterprets a situation and gets a helpless person killed.. RIDICULOUS!!

[tvc184]

So someone calls 911 saying that there is a person sitting outside who wants to commit suicide. The cops show up, find a guy sitting on the ground apparently planning to kill himself with a white toy truck and engage him with deadly force. Now it's been a while since I've been deployed and even longer since I've been shot at but I recall that deadly force isn't authorized to stop someone from committing suicide. Regardless the cops couldn't hit the guy sitting on the ground and instead hit the guy next to him laying there with his hands in the air??? Are you freaking kidding me?

Richard.

It goes by each state's law individually.

In Texas you are 100% correct...... but maybe you aren't.

In Chapter 9 which covers use of force, it clears says that a "person" (not specifically a police officer) can use force but not deadly force to prevent suicide. That seems easy enough but it is true? Are there exceptions?

Deadly force is force that can cause death (naturally) OR... serious bodily injury. In the Penal Code a broken arm fits the definition of serious bodily injury. Let's say a guy is holding a gun to his head or a knife to his throat and threatening suicide. You hit him with a club, breaking his arm and saving his life. By law that is deadly force. Now you can spend up to 20 years in prison or life in prison if it is a police officer for saving a guy's life because the laws says you can't use deadly force to stop a suicide. What do you tell an officer in such a situation.... "Thanks for saving my son's life by hitting his arm but we are filing charges and you need to spend your next 50 year in prison".

Hmmm.....

But it gets better. In the exact same section (PC 9.34) it goes on to say that you can use up to deadly force against anyone to save his life. So why does 9.34(a) say that to stop a suicide you cannot use deadly force but in 934(b) it says to save a life you can use any force. Isn't stopping a suicide saving the same life?

Things that make you go hmmmmm.

[tvc184]

The rest of the video and any others needs to come out because it might be lawful what the officer did. With that in mind...........

I am still thinking it might have been an accident. The officer might have said that he was shooting at the autistic guy as an excuse for sending the round down range. Maybe in his haste to come up with a justification other than, "I just screwed up", he claimed that he thought he saw a gun (possibly making it lawful).

Obviously that is just speculation and might not be proven even if true. Of course without the rest of the video, who knows. Maybe the guy with the truck jumped up and turned toward the officers and the rounds were sent down range. That would change the story quite a bit.

I know that i wouldn't want to be that officer and this is sure a lousy time in history to be making mistakes whether it was an accident or shooting without a good reason. All officers will pay for it.

[BoneDigger]

Even if the autistic guy did have a pistol, assuming he wasn't acting threatening, would that be justification to shoot? I could see it at close range or if he was pointing it and firing or acting like he will fire. But, the video just kind of shows the guy sitting there playing with something.

It'll be interesting to see how this plays out in the end.