Trump Cruz

[GarGuy]

Infer what you want.

Can you tell what I'm thinking now?

Good one!

[txjustin]

I think that this is the truth about Trump...

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I'm sorry Shane... but the only way to achieve your utopia is with force... you cannot win at the ballot box..

It probably won't happen in your lifetime, certainly not mine but it will be necessary... However, if they drop SS or confiscate guns then we could see it tomorrow... can you imagine 42 million ****** off old people with guns charging Washington on our walkers

1. Trump is no patriot. Well, unless I don't know the meaning.
2. SS is now a socialistic program (if you want to argue that we certainly can). I'd be happy to give up any chance at what I've given for it to be phased out. Don't miss the key phrase: phased out.

[JW]

1. Trump is no patriot. Well, unless I don't know the meaning.

2. SS is now a socialistic program (if you want to argue that we certainly can). I'd be happy to give up any chance at what I've given for it to be phased out. Don't miss the key phrase: phased out.[/QUOTE]


Ok. Lol.

[txjustin]

1. Trump is no patriot. Well, unless I don't know the meaning.

2. SS is now a socialistic program (if you want to argue that we certainly can). I'd be happy to give up any chance at what I've given for it to be phased out. Don't miss the key phrase: phased out.

Ok. Lol.[/QUOTE]

Care to expand on why you lol? Was it the patriot part (then I understand) or the SS part?

[ttechdallas]

The moderate voters who long for their version of the "right" big government politicians to be in control are the people who are voting for the big government establishment politicians who pander to the voters during the campaign but then go to Washington and cut deals with every special interest group and donor that is willing to line their pockets. That's my point, actually. That is why government is the source of our problems and will never be the solution to them. Government is corrupting. The only way to have fewer problems caused by government is to have smaller government. The only way to have smaller government is to get rid of all the politicians who are not in favor of following the Constitution. The only way to have a prayer of doing that is to actually vote for constitutional conservatives in the primaries and then again in the general elections.

When we vote for the guy that says he can run the big government better than the last guy, we're not going to get any different results. We'll still have an oppressively large government. It will just have different people pulling the strings. Same song, different verse. Letting gay people call themselves married doesn't solve the problem with crony capitalism. That's a red herring issue that draws a lot of attention away from the fact that Trump is a big government crony capitalist who will continue to use the government to line the pockets of wealthy establishment people. They may be different than the people who are currently cashing in, so that part may be different. But the system in general will still be the same. Big government corruption making people with the right connections rich off the backs of tax payers like you and me.

Whoopie.

I just don't think it is that simple. Personally, I think the challenge we have is that we define problems along partisan lines and hence, are one step removed from reality. When a problem is defined based on who is being blamed, the solution has no chance of succeeding. The more divided we become, the worse it gets. We're so divided now that even "moderate" is a bad word.

[Shane]

I just don't think it is that simple. Personally, I think the challenge we have is that we define problems along partisan lines and hence, are one step removed from reality. When a problem is defined based on who is being blamed, the solution has no chance of succeeding. The more divided we become, the worse it gets. We're so divided now that even "moderate" is a bad word.

If we can't define a problem, how are we ever gonna solve it? Refusing to call a spade a spade isn't helping anything. That's just like the Democrats refusing to say the words "radical Islamic terrorist". Sometimes (many times) one side IS the problem. If we worry more about being politically correct so we don't hurt somebody's precious feelings when they are actually causing the problem that needs to be solved, how are we ever gonna fix it?

Big government overreach into every aspect of our lives is the problem. I don't care if all the progressives (liberals and moderates in both parties) like hearing that or not. It's still true. They need to be defeated, not coddled. We're never gonna be able to find a way to all hold hands and sing kumbya together in perfect harmony. Somebody is gonna win a little every day. Every day we compromise with the big government progressives, we lose a little more. Personally, I'm ready to see that go the other way, and I would welcome the day we see those progressives crying and moaning over it. I don't need them to be happy with what is happening in politics. I just need them to not get their way. Their way is destructive.

[JW]

Ok. Lol.

Care to expand on why you lol? Was it the patriot part (then I understand) or the SS part?[/QUOTE]


Not gonna really gonna waste much breath on it. It's just funny how people assign to their liking whether someone is a patriot or not simply because you don't agree with his stance.

[ttechdallas]

If we can't define a problem, how are we ever gonna solve it? Refusing to call a spade a spade isn't helping anything. That's just like the Democrats refusing to say the words "radical Islamic terrorist". Sometimes (many times) one side IS the problem. If we worry more about being politically correct so we don't hurt somebody's precious feelings when they are actually causing the problem that needs to be solved, how are we ever gonna fix it?

Big government overreach into every aspect of our lives is the problem. I don't care if all the progressives (liberals and moderates in both parties) like hearing that or not. It's still true. They need to be defeated, not coddled. We're never gonna be able to find a way to all hold hands and sing kumbya together in perfect harmony. Somebody is gonna win a little every day. Every day we compromise with the big government progressives, we lose a little more. Personally, I'm ready to see that go the other way, and I would welcome the day we see those progressives crying and moaning over it. I don't need them to be happy with what is happening in politics. I just need them to not get their way. Their way is destructive.

Any solution requires an honest and accurate definition of the problem. Or it will not be solved. There are problems and then there are things we just may not like. In an effort to divide us, politicians have made conservatism vs liberalism a zero sum game in which the only way either side can win is to totally conquer the other side. So unless we are ready for civil war, we have to find common ground with those with whom we may disagree politically.

By the way, I agree on government overreach into every aspect of our lives being a big issue. But I include in that our own government spying on and keeping records of everything we do - from online browsing habits to who we know, who we talk to and how long to where we go.

Anyway, not trying to argue with you much less change your mind. Just offering a different perspective.

[txjustin]

Care to expand on why you lol? Was it the patriot part (then I understand) or the SS part?

Not gonna really gonna waste much breath on it. It's just funny how people assign to their liking whether someone is a patriot or not simply because you don't agree with his stance.[/QUOTE]

Well, if a patriot to you is someone who is moderate on the 2A (based on past stances they've taken (historical facts), not the new and improved rhetoric, then by all means they are a patriot.

[JW]

Not gonna really gonna waste much breath on it. It's just funny how people assign to their liking whether someone is a patriot or not simply because you don't agree with his stance.

Well, if a patriot to you is someone who is moderate on the 2A (based on past stances they've taken (historical facts), not the new and improved rhetoric, then by all means they are a patriot.[/QUOTE]


LMMFAO!!!

[txjustin]

Well, if a patriot to you is someone who is moderate on the 2A (based on past stances they've taken (historical facts), not the new and improved rhetoric, then by all means they are a patriot.

LMMFAO!!![/QUOTE]

I'm ROTFLMAO at the facts I distributed

[JW]

Trump Cruz

LMMFAO!!!

I'm ROTFLMAO at the facts I distributed [/QUOTE]


Do I need to say "ok" again???? Or did you get it the first time?? [emoji6]

And I know liberals that laid their lives on the line in the Military. I guess they don't qualify either in your book. [emoji849]

Now I'm done with your foolishness.

[Snakelover]

Right is right and wrong is wrong. Agreeing to be half-wrong for the sake of compromise doesn't help solve a problem.

[txjustin]

I'm ROTFLMAO at the facts I distributed

Do I need to say "ok" again???? Or did you get it the first time?? [emoji6]

And I know liberals that laid their lives on the line in the Military. I guess they don't qualify either in your book. [emoji849]

Now I'm done with your foolishness.[/QUOTE]

Who said anything about liberals? My foolishness? You really hate facts don't you?
The fact is: Donald Trump has come out on the 2A in his past, FACT. My take is if you're against the Bill of Rights and the COTUS you are no patriot. Clear as mud now?

If you have something to say, expand upon it. Using acronyms instead of rebutting makes you look uninformed (not saying you are, fyi).

[Mike Javi Cooper]

Not gonna really gonna waste much breath on it. It's just funny how people assign to their liking whether someone is a patriot or not simply because you don't agree with his stance.

Well, if a patriot to you is someone who is moderate on the 2A (based on past stances they've taken (historical facts), not the new and improved rhetoric, then by all means they are a patriot.[/QUOTE]
So being pro gun is your definition of a patriot. .. you really need to rethink your dictionary.

There are plenty of people who are not pro gun that have given everything to protect this country.

Your ideology is flawed.

Trump has never done anything that would reflect that he does not love this country. Question his manner, question his methods, even question his goals but you have no basis to attack his love for this country.