Compound vs. Cross Bow Question

[Madsonz]

Does'nt bother me either way. I've never used a crossbow, but did consider it before purchasing my first compound. To me it is almost the same thing. I feel the hardest part of bow hunting is being patient, stealthy and quiet enough to let the animal get close enough for an ethical shot, which would be neccessary with a crossbow as well, at least as far as I know. To me the thrill of being 20 to 30 yards from an animal is what the hunt is all about. Since picking up a bow, I have not used a scoped rifle because of the charge I get being that close to the target. Now I when I hunt with a gun I use an open sight Marlin .35 in thick brush because the thrill is gone for me on shots over 40 yards. The rush comes from hunting an animal that knows you are there but does not know where. And thats my 2 cents, which is about all the sense I have.

[boss bowman]

In all honesty I have not ever been busted by an animal of any kind during my draw back.

Wow you either haven't drawn back on alot of deer or are hunting tame ones.

I bet we will see less stories on here about LOST deer because people aren't as proficient with their bows as they think they are!

But we will see more stories about LOST deer because some newbie didn't take the time to practice with his new shiny crossbow.

Based on your logic maybe we should all just hunt with spears on the ground. That would more of an even playing field. I would assume a hunter that uses a spear thinks hunting with a bow is cheating.

Don't get me wrong, I don't think the regs should change. I just think some of the anti- xbow arguments are not very legitimate. It's like the draw lock you mentioned.

I'm just saying they need to draw the line somwheres, and IMO they passed that line when they legalized draw locks, wheres it gonna end? How long before the decide to legalize this arrow gun?

[whakm]

No crossbows in Archery only season. No special youth hunts either. Gun season is long enough for any special event you might want to have. I'm just selfesh and want archery season left alone. If it was up to me, I'd make archery only season last until the 1st of December or so.

[Russ]

If the arrow comes off a string I could care less what some one does on their own land during Oct. ITS NOT GOING TO EFFECT ANY OF US!!!!! I can't hear, it so I don't care. I do not believe they should be aloud on public land though. As for the arrow gun above that involves no string and you could hear so no it should never be aloud.

This argument is made between the long/recurve shooters vs. compound as well. If we want to put a limit on ourselves and say that X bows have more of an advantage, lets go back when the compound was gaining peoples interest and show how far they have come. I think I have a big advantage over almost any long bow shooter, don't yall agree you do too???? Should we put a limit on ourselves for speed and accuracy with our compounds as well???

People want to compare apples to oranges all the time. Comparing a gun to an X bow makes since in some ways, but in reality there are tons of people that shoot their guns the weekend before the season and that's it. Same goes for bow shooters. Does that make them less of a hunter as well??? I don't think so, but I guess some do. To each his own.

In my opinion they should not be aloud on public hunting land and they should have their own record book for kills. Other than that if you don't like them then don't use them or make it a rule you can't use them on your lease!!! Most people will probably do this anyway.

[mesquitecountry]

No crossbows in Archery only season. No special youth hunts either. Gun season is long enough for any special event you might want to have. I'm just selfesh and want archery season left alone. If it was up to me, I'd make archery only season last until the 1st of December or so.

The reason why bowhunters get a bad rap.

I'm just saying they need to draw the line somwheres, and IMO they passed that line when they legalized draw locks, wheres it gonna end? How long before the decide to legalize this arrow gun?

Airrow gun is a gun It uses a primer and powder to propel. A bow of any size and shape uses limbs and strings. They are nowhere near the same.

[Bill]

The success rate of the average bow hunter is nil... the above average i.e... The folks who practice and can keep his/her arrows on a pie plate at 20 yards stands a better chance if they have the common sense to limit their shot, but from what I see at the local ranges in the month before opening day that ain’t happening..

I think many good folks on TBH would argue that their success rate is much higher with a bow. I always console myself when I don't get a shot with my bow, if I wanted easy, I'd hunt with my rifle.

A pie plate at 20 yards with a compound bow be able to be done drunk and standing on one leg. I practice with broadheads at 50/60 before elk season, and can group 3 within 6 inches- but have not shot anything much over 20 yards.

I shoot recurve for hunting as well as compound, and I practice a lot to get small groups out to 30, but that takes lots of hours of shooting- which I love every shot.

I can't comment about hunters at your ranges, but I see the guys practicing with broadheads at our range in the sandpit off the side (I built the workbench for doing bow tuning with a small bow holder- all outdoors) and they're holding small groups at 30 yards typically.

[ccbowhunter]

When it happens. Hopefully this legislative session. All those that predicted the end of the world will realize no one had anything taken away from them and even more people will join the sport of bowhunting solidifying our place in the world with a stronger foot hold to combat the anti's and keeping our heritage alive by a few more years.




A crossbow is much larger than a modern compound. It is not easier to wield in a blind. I speak from experience.

try to wield a compound at full draw in a blind and tell me a crossbow is harder butt each his own we are all hunters and we and we share a passion for the outdoors. why cant we all just get along

[venado]

TAC 15

One hole groups at 50 yds.

No thinking person could think that this would be comparable to a conventional draw within game range bow.

[CaptainDave]

Wow you either haven't drawn back on alot of deer or are hunting tame ones.
But we will see more stories about LOST deer because some newbie didn't take the time to practice with his new shiny crossbow.

I'm just saying they need to draw the line somwheres, and IMO they passed that line when they legalized draw locks, wheres it gonna end? How long before the decide to legalize this arrow gun?

First, I read numerous stories on this site during archery season about LOST deer. Nobody said anything about lack of practice. Most people said it happens to the best of them at some point in time and didn't make any references to lack of practice. I have no idea why some people automatically assume someone who would hunt with an xbow would not practice. Besides, do you think anyone under the current regs purchases a cheap bow a couple weeks before October and hits the woods. If your answer is no, then you need to pull your head out of the sand. As for the drawlocks, you've seem to skip right over my question as to how many people that you know that actually use one. Like I said before, I have seen a draw lock once, and it was being used by someone who could have used an xbow anyway. As far as drawing the line, I would think stick and string probably would be a good line to draw. That bow gun would not be legal.

[mesquitecountry]

been there done it. a 31" compound is just as easy to maneuver.

[Okiehunter]

As I recall, when compounds first started coming onto the hunting scene in the early 70’s the bow hunters of the time (what we would call traditional hunters today) were opposed to compounds being used during archery season.

Can we actually look back at when this type of thread started and who started it ??? Or how about this why does it keep getting posted week in and week out??? Who continues to bring this argument question up every week or month??? And why, when it has been sliced in every direction it can be sliced....??????

While I agree we should not fuss and fight among ourselves, I do believe a healthy debate should be welcomed. HWC if you are suggesting I have posted this question for some reason other than self education and enlighten you have made a grave underestimation of your ability to judge intent and have insinuated an assumption without any authority or investigation.

Not all of us get to spend a lot of time reading past posts on this or any web site. I generally respect most of the persons on this web site and their opinions. If you don’t care to re-read the opinions on this subject, don’t read them but don’t hammer those asking for information and those willing to take time to speak their opinion.

All I am trying to understand is why the “bow hunting community” does not generally welcome the “cross-bow community” into the woods during archery only season. In the almost 40 posts so far I see few agreements to advance either position. Most feed back is coming from the heart and no logical reason for or against either way. I do enjoy reading everyone’s thoughts on the subject, good or bad. Thanks for your feedback, I will keep reading as long as you guys keep posting.

[HWC]

As I recall, when compounds first started coming onto the hunting scene in the early 70’s the bow hunters of the time (what we would call traditional hunters today) were opposed to compounds being used during archery season.



While I agree we should not fuss and fight among ourselves, I do believe a healthy debate should be welcomed. HWC if you are suggesting I have posted this question for some reason other than self education and enlighten you have made a grave underestimation of your ability to judge intent and have insinuated an assumption without any authority or investigation.

Not all of us get to spend a lot of time reading past posts on this or any web site. I generally respect most of the persons on this web site and their opinions. If you don’t care to re-read the opinions on this subject, don’t read them but don’t hammer those asking for information and those willing to take time to speak their opinion.

All I am trying to understand is why the “bow hunting community” does not generally welcome the “cross-bow community” into the woods during archery only season. In the almost 40 posts so far I see few agreements to advance either position. Most feed back is coming from the heart and no logical reason for or against either way. I do enjoy reading everyone’s thoughts on the subject, good or bad. Thanks for your feedback, I will keep reading as long as you guys keep posting.

And you should read a little deeper into my post.... I did not " HAMMER" anyone... I simply looked at this from an investigators eye, and I am very positive that you sir are not the one that actually started this type of thread, you just added to or asked the same question in a different way. It is just like a virus,,, plant the virus and watch it grow... it will infect 100's before it is stopped and the damage will have been done...

If you want to defeat your enemy plant a virus about something they either love or hate and allow this to be a topic of disscussion between the ranks... It will bring out ammo you can use against your enemy to defeat them later on down the road. I DID NOT HAMMER ANYONE... I mearlly asked if anyone knew who started this type of thread the first time...And it surelly is not nor was it you....

[Bill]

As I recall, when compounds first started coming onto the hunting scene in the early 70’s the bow hunters of the time (what we would call traditional hunters today) were opposed to compounds being used during archery season.

I belong to an archery club that 80+% are trad archers, and I shoot and hunt with both compound and recurve depending on what mood I'm in, and how much practice I've had with my recurve. Believe me, there are trad archers who still believe that today. Not me, but they're out there.

[rocky]

As I recall, when compounds first started coming onto the hunting scene in the early 70’s the bow hunters of the time (what we would call traditional hunters today) were opposed to compounds being used during archery season.



While I agree we should not fuss and fight among ourselves, I do believe a healthy debate should be welcomed. HWC if you are suggesting I have posted this question for some reason other than self education and enlighten you have made a grave underestimation of your ability to judge intent and have insinuated an assumption without any authority or investigation.

Not all of us get to spend a lot of time reading past posts on this or any web site. I generally respect most of the persons on this web site and their opinions. If you don’t care to re-read the opinions on this subject, don’t read them but don’t hammer those asking for information and those willing to take time to speak their opinion.

All I am trying to understand is why the “bow hunting community” does not generally welcome the “cross-bow community” into the woods during archery only season. In the almost 40 posts so far I see few agreements to advance either position. Most feed back is coming from the heart and no logical reason for or against either way. I do enjoy reading everyone’s thoughts on the subject, good or bad. Thanks for your feedback, I will keep reading as long as you guys keep posting.

I've never posted on a Crossbow debate, because I don't like to expose my ignorance, but here's how I look at it.
The archery only season was instated to allow bowhunters a special season due to the difficulty of killing a deer with a bow and arrow setup.
This season allows archers to hunt a deer that has not been pressured yet.
It does require a lot of practice (and failure) to consistently kill deer with a bow, due to the fact that you have to draw the bow after a deer gets into or very close to the range you are comfortable with. This is the moment of truth in most bowhunting opportunities.
Using a crossbow eliminates this part of the procedure.
I have no problem with the requirements that allow those that use a crossbow during the arhery season currently, but if the TPWD allows everybody and anybody to use a crossbow during the archery season, I would like to see them have to draw the crossbow at the same point of the encounter that bowhunters do.

[boss bowman]

Airrow gun is a gun It uses a primer and powder to propel. A bow of any size and shape uses limbs and strings. They are nowhere near the same.

An xbow has several of the same components of a rifle, it is very much the same. It is shoulder mounted, has a stock and trigger, this new one uses the lower receiver of an AR 15 so don't go and try to **** on my leg and tell me its raining.

Check out their website and tell me this is not an unfair advantage

http://www.tac15.com/

Plenty interesting videos about the TAC15 on youtube as well.