Compound vs. Cross Bow Question

[Mike Javi Cooper]

Now ya talking!!! I hope 50% of the state goes that way.........sooner than later! But I ain't holding my breath.

It wouldn't hurt my feelings or my personal hunting if the entire state went bow only.. but I would hate to see it for all the gun hunters... because they would lose their way of life... and that would be a sad thing...

[Mike Javi Cooper]

Javi
I think it's the preception that it's easier more so than it is actually easier.

If you understand that, then help dispel the myth...

[gigem130]

still uses an arrow, limbs and a string..

Hard to argue with that. I was stationed in Arkansas for seven years and had a friend who used a crossbow. After helping him track and lose 4 deer in two years, I was turned off of crossbows. Now I know he was not the best shot around, and I am sure there are alot of people who are better than he is. With the crossbow, he never had to wait to draw, he just aimed and fired. The only other hunting where you point and shoot is firearm hunting.

[keep]

If you understand that, then help dispel the myth...

Javi
I can't help dispel the myth I have no knowledge of them. I don't know that's it's easier but that is certainly what the public perception is. The only time I have ever seen one shot was during a 3d shoot and the guy was hammered drunk and he was shooting as good as us.
I could see where it would create less movement while in a tree or on the ground but also understand that blind hunting nullifies the movement of both the bow and xbow

[BillfromFtWorth]

Let me see.... so far the reasons not to have crossbows in archery are...

1. Sombody other than ME will make money

2. Gun hunters might start shooting bows

3. I don't want more bow hunters in MY woods.. (only really honest answer)

4. Crossbows are too easy

You left out letting crossbow in archery season will fast track the legalization of muzzleloaders then rifles in october.

We will eventually see bow only zones in Texas, so we should work to make bowhunting more acceptable to the publc

If crossbows help achieve this in the future I would support them and say I was wrong on this issue, however I don't see this happening, too many gun guys that would oppose it. I still believe we would more likely see a october thru december rifle season before we see more counties go the way of grayson.

[keep]

Hard to argue with that. I was stationed in Arkansas for seven years and had a friend who used a crossbow. After helping him track and lose 4 deer in two years, I was turned off of crossbows. Now I know he was not the best shot around, and I am sure there are alot of people who are better than he is. With the crossbow, he never had to wait to draw, he just aimed and fired. The only other hunting where you point and shoot is firearm hunting.

That's lack on hunting knowledge on your friends part and this is the type of guy I worry about. Just a little knowledge about his equipment and hunting situations would have helped.

[Mike Javi Cooper]

Hard to argue with that. I was stationed in Arkansas for seven years and had a friend who used a crossbow. After helping him track and lose 4 deer in two years, I was turned off of crossbows. Now I know he was not the best shot around, and I am sure there are alot of people who are better than he is. With the crossbow, he never had to wait to draw, he just aimed and fired. The only other hunting where you point and shoot is firearm hunting.

Instinctive shooting with a longbow or re-curve is just about that fast too...

But the crossbow wasn’t at fault in your story, your buddy was… and a good bit of blame could be laid at your doorstep as well… if you saw his lack of knowledge and skill yet did nothing to help him…

[gigem130]

That's lack on hunting knowledge on your friends part and this is the type of guy I worry about. Just a little knowledge about his equipment and hunting situations would have helped.

I agree. He did not start hunting until he was almost 40, and thought the crossbow would be easy. Plus the bow season there is 5 months long, so he could hunt the whole year with it. Just seemed to him that it would be the best way to get in the woods wihtout having to work too much.

Of course the ease is a double edge sword, while it does get more people in the field, it does not always get the ones you want. But that can be said about most types of equipment. I guess I am jsut selfish, and do not want to share our season with crossbow hunters.

[gigem130]

Instinctive shooting with a longbow or re-curve is just about that fast too...

Yeah, but there is a certain amount of practice involved with instinctive shooters that does not need to be there with the crossbow.

[gigem130]

"But the crossbow wasn’t at fault in your story, your buddy was… and a good bit of blame could be laid at your doorstep as well… if you saw his lack of knowledge and skill yet did nothing to help him…"



You ever hear the saying lead a blind horse to water?? Well with him, I could lead him to the tank, but feared he would drown!

Seriuosly, I did try to help him, but nothing seemed to work. I have been in the field with guns or bows for 29 years, and would never let something like thatr go without trying to rectify the situation.

[Mike Javi Cooper]

Javi
I can't help dispel the myth I have no knowledge of them. I don't know that's it's easier but that is certainly what the public perception is. The only time I have ever seen one shot was during a 3d shoot and the guy was hammered drunk and he was shooting as good as us.
I could see where it would create less movement while in a tree or on the ground but also understand that blind hunting nullifies the movement of both the bow and xbow

Then my suggestion would be to learn about them... and help the new archer learn to shoot and hunt with whatever bow they choose... I truly enjoy spending my free time helping folks learn to share the sport I've enjoyed for 50 years... whether they shoot a crossbow, re-curve, longbow or compound makes me no difference... I get a kick each and every time I see their smile when they hit the bullseye for the first time..

[Mike Javi Cooper]

Yeah, but there is a certain amount of practice involved with instinctive shooters that does not need to be there with the crossbow.

not a single drop of practice is required to be a bad shot... it comes naturally to most.

[gigem130]

not a single drop of practice is required to be a bad shot... it comes naturally to most.

Isn't that the truth!

[tinman]

Hey Mike...it's just "recurve", no hyphen needed.

While most people here seem to agree that this will not generate additional funds, TPWD has issue a statement which speculates that it will through the sale of additional archery stamps. I think it could be tough to counter this report from TPWD...we need to show-up in numbers.

I appreciate reading the post on this thread, we need to be typing & talking with the Senate Natural Resources Committee.

[Mike Javi Cooper]

Hey Mike...it's just "recurve", no hyphen needed.

While most people here agree that this will not generate additional funds, TPWD has issue a statement which speculates that it will. I think it's going to be tough to counter this report from TPWD.

I appreciate seeing the post on this thread, we need to be typing & talking with the Senate Natural Resources Committee.

Not to my spell checker... it's hard headed just like me..