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    I'm looking for something to be able to spot game at pretty good distances. And only buy once or be able to get it fixed no matter what happened.

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      Originally posted by Etxnoodler View Post
      What are the two alpha companies with good warranties?


      Originally posted by Etxnoodler View Post
      I'm looking for something to be able to spot game at pretty good distances. And only buy once or be able to get it fixed no matter what happened.


      Swarovski and Zeiss. Leica makes good glass but I won't buy due entirely to the fact that they can be sketchy on warranty and customer service.

      Go Swarovski. It is the gold standard that everyone else is measured by. Great product. Great customer service. Great resell.

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        Originally posted by RdRdrFan View Post
        Swarovski and Zeiss. Leica makes good glass but I won't buy due entirely to the fact that they can be sketchy on warranty and customer service.

        Go Swarovski. It is the gold standard that everyone else is measured by. Great product. Great customer service. Great resell.
        Thanks I'll definantly look into them.

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          Originally posted by RdRdrFan View Post
          Swarovski and Zeiss. Leica makes good glass but I won't buy due entirely to the fact that they can be sketchy on warranty and customer service.

          Go Swarovski. It is the gold standard that everyone else is measured by. Great product. Great customer service. Great resell.
          Old Leica had terrible CS, here over last three years they have been extremely good.

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            And dont forget a tripod to go with them. I cant afford swaros but my 15x56 vortex have been a game changer.

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              Originally posted by Felix40 View Post
              And dont forget a tripod to go with them. I cant afford swaros but my 15x56 vortex have been a game changer.
              I was going to get 10x42 razors and a tripod mount but now I'm second guessing it. Haven't looked at the prices of the others yet so I might be priced out of them.

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                Originally posted by Texans42 View Post
                Old Leica had terrible CS, here over last three years they have been extremely good.


                As long as you buy new. Second hand user is still screwed with Leica. Not so with Swarovski.

                Just to reiterate, Leica makes a bad *** product. I would just prefer that they stand by their stuff no matter who owns it.

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                  Originally posted by RdRdrFan View Post
                  As long as you buy new. Second hand user is still screwed with Leica. Not so with Swarovski.

                  Just to reiterate, Leica makes a bad *** product. I would just prefer that they stand by their stuff no matter who owns it.
                  They all are changing, Love or Hate Vortex, they
                  upped the game on Warranty and CS. Competition has taken notice and are changing, some faster then others

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                    here is some fuel for daydreams / big bulls in New mexico
                    /www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rFGUYiNLyQ

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                      Originally posted by Texans42 View Post
                      They all are changing, Love or Hate Vortex, they
                      upped the game on Warranty and CS. Competition has taken notice and are changing, some faster then others


                      Not trying to be argumentative but Vortex changed the lower and mid level warranty/customer service game for a few companies. But it didn't have an effect on Swarovski or Zeiss as they handled warranty/customer service the right way long before Vortex was ever even an idea. Hell, Leupold did as well.

                      Vortex imports an ok product.
                      Vortex does warranty and customer service well.
                      Vortex markets very well. That is the best thing they do.

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                        For me I bought my razors strictly for the warranty and they have been good glass. That said I also bought them knowing I would buy a pair of sworo's at some point in my life


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                          Looked into the diffrent options today. Swaros are to expensive for me and the buyers guide I looked at said limited warranty " limited to manufacturer and parts malfunction". Zeiss had a limited warranty same as above, but transferable. Vortex has a has a no questions asked no receipt needed only way it's not honored is theft or loss. That seems like a lot better warranty than the others. I think I'm going to get vortex. Even though it may not be the best glass. It seems to be really really good glass with the absolute best warranty that I can always get fixed. One pair of binoculars for life. As long as they are in business I guess lol.

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                            Originally posted by Etxnoodler View Post
                            Looked into the diffrent options today. Swaros are to expensive for me and the buyers guide I looked at said limited warranty " limited to manufacturer and parts malfunction". Zeiss had a limited warranty same as above, but transferable. Vortex has a has a no questions asked no receipt needed only way it's not honored is theft or loss. That seems like a lot better warranty than the others. I think I'm going to get vortex. Even though it may not be the best glass. It seems to be really really good glass with the absolute best warranty that I can always get fixed. One pair of binoculars for life. As long as they are in business I guess lol.
                            I bet theyll handle 99% of your situations.

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                              Y'all quit that sheet!!! Sound like a bunch of freak'n Roksliders bitching about the finer points of barreling and aberration across the dang visual scale of a fly anus in the first 10 minutes of daylight on the third Tuesday of the second rifle season on the odd years.

                              Swaro is fantastic glass, Leica has better color contrast but not as clear in the glass that I have been able to look through. And Vortex has great freak'n value glass.

                              To each their own, I know lots of folks who shoot 870s and met a couple guys with $80k shotguns, many will work, some just do it better.

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                                A great warranty isn't worth a flip at 10,000 feet and optics you can't see through. Vortex may be just fine, but Zeiss, Swarovski, Leica they are not. Quality optics are usually very important in most mountain hunting situations


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