Who on here had an AR/AK style gun before 2004?

[Bassdeer]

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[KactusKiller]

Lots to unpack here. I’ll start here. Why do people think an AR15 forces you to blow through or waste ammo? I see this claim all the time.

I don’t think it forces you to do anything either, and honestly I don’t myself. I don’t think I have ever actually emptied a full mag many times.

[KactusKiller]

Yes to a certain extent but why not the best tool for the job ?

They ban AR's and HC mags, then only the criminals will have them. Like bringing a knife to a gunfight.

Completely agree

[KactusKiller]

The “fact” that most people’s lives wouldn’t change that much, has absolutely nothing to do with anything. Need has absolutely nothing to do with rights.


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Your getting confused with the question, my question isn’t one’s right. It’s just the use of the actual AR itself. Nobody here is questioning the 2A.

[Benno]

I’m not judging or asking anyone to make a decision to have or not have, I’m just simply asking, would it make a difference in your life one way or the other if you did not have one. That question is based on our past not the slim chance a foreign/domestic enemy comes to our front steps. Nobody can see the future but if you take our countries history and our lack of bordering aggressive nations it’s slim that a red dawn scenario will ever happen(sorry Dad). Doesn’t mean you shouldn’t prepare I’m just asking a question that has been on my mind lately and curious how many others have thought about the same.

Then yes, it would make a difference in my life. Takes away some fun time. 30 round clip, no, I don’t have one and don’t plan on getting one. Home defense, no, that’s what buck shots for.

[Dale Moser]

Your getting confused with the question, my question isn’t one’s right. It’s just the use of the actual AR itself. Nobody here is questioning the 2A.

You can’t separate the 2.

I could still hunt and defend my house with bolt guns/shotguns/short guns…but I much prefer to hunt pigs with an AR, and that’s all the need required.


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[KactusKiller]

Of course we could.

What makes you think you’d get choice sirloin? That’s not how this works…when you bend over and be told you can’t have ribeye, you don’t have any say anymore. You get the leftover burger meat, or maybe something cheaper like soy…it’s not your call…you already cowered.


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Ok I get that but let me ask you this, how far did you bend over in 1994?? I’m guessing a lot of people cowered and took chopped beef when the AWB was imposed originally. Just based off your statement. What did you do during those 10yrs? What if they had extended it or if Obama would have brought it back?

My entire reason this came up is that I was thinking back to the 80’s-2000’s. My dad was a big gun guy, collector, gun smith and shooter. At best we might have shot an M1 carbine or a mini 14 but he never owned many thru the yrs. But now how many people since 20004 have bought an AR?? What has changed beside the fact that they are cool and someone trying to take them away again.

[Ætheling]

Who on here had an AR/AK style gun before 2004?

No, my question prob wouldn’t pertain to them as that is their weapon of choice that they have been trained with. It’s prob like a third hand for most of the nations finest!

My question was in context to YOUR training as you are trying to state what is practical devil’s advocate or otherwise. I would argue you have little idea of what is practical in a gun fight. Im bringing overwhelming firepower. Im gonna have breakfast with my family that morning and he/they aint.

The bigger argument is a tyrannical govt. Talking about homegrown. Thats what the 2A and the right to own HC automatic rifles is about. An invasion from Russia or China is someone trying to frame an argument against gun rights in their favor through the use of logical fallacy.


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[KactusKiller]

Back in the day you could walk into a store and buy a full auto off the shelf. Did anyone "need" one to hunt, nope, but you don't need a car that can go 100 mph, a house with more than 1 room, or a myriad of other things. No one shot up a school back then and every redneck kid had much more powerful guns than 5 56 in the back window of an unlocked truck. I don't know why some "need" me to justify why I like evil black rifles and why I "need" their permission to own one. Had I been old enough prior to 04 I for sure would have an AR. They're just too dang handy and fun. Anti gunners "need" to pound sand as far as I'm concerned.

I don’t understand the super fast muscle car thing either, who needs a car that goes 150+? But hey we can start that thread tomorrow and **** more people off.

[JakeM]

I didnt own one prior to 2004 because i was 10. But as soon as i became of age i bought one and have had one ever since. Its is an extremely effective tool thats why the military uses it for CQB and they dont use shotguns.

The point of owning one isnt for hunting or for your average home break in although the do the job well. The purpose of owning them is because the government isnt supposed to have the monopoly on death and destruction. They are there too keep the gov in check. To keep ourself truly free from of tyranny. The founding father pur the 2A in the constitution for the sole purpose of defending it from enemies foreign and DOMESTIC, which includes our own government. Theres a reason Benjamin Franklin said that we have "A Republic, if you can keep it."

[jdg13]

I don’t understand the super fast muscle car thing either, who needs a car that goes 150+? But hey we can start that thread tomorrow and **** more people off.

Ahh, so now we see your real intention. Carry on

[Dale Moser]

I bought one as soon as I could! (I was 15 in 1994)

How much would your life change if you could only own single shot rifles and shotguns?

It’s all or nothing, dude. I understand where you’re trying to go with this, but it’s bad logic, if it’s logic at all.


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[Shane]

I’m not judging or asking anyone to make a decision to have or not have, I’m just simply asking, would it make a difference in your life one way or the other if you did not have one. That question is based on our past not the slim chance a foreign/domestic enemy comes to our front steps. Nobody can see the future but if you take our countries history and our lack of bordering aggressive nations it’s slim that a red dawn scenario will ever happen(sorry Dad). Doesn’t mean you shouldn’t prepare I’m just asking a question that has been on my mind lately and curious how many others have thought about the same.

It wouldn't make a difference in your life at all.....until it does. Better to have it not need it than need it and not have it. The 2A has nothing to do with hunting.

[rtp]

Man to be honest, like I said earlier I need to re study the why and why not of that entire BS. I just got to thinking about the AR and how it really hasn’t been that big of a deal for very long. And there has been mass killings before and after yet the AR is the soap box for the pro 2A and the anti gun people. I just have like warm feelings about the gun myself.

It isn’t the soapbox for the pro 2a folks but most certainly is for they anti 2a folks. They have convinced the ignorant general population that the AR is a big scary military weapon and it needs to be restricted so mass killings will go away. They are using this falsehood to make an attempt at limiting the 2a. That is why the AR has become the soapbox as you put it.


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[KactusKiller]

You can’t separate the 2.

I could still hunt and defend my house with bolt guns/shotguns/short guns…but I much prefer to hunt pigs with an AR, and that’s all the need required.


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It’s easy to separate the two when your having a conversation based on what ifs. Just open the mind to possibilities. Your looking at just gun owner ship, I’m basing my conversation on the AR/AK which is the poster boy for debate. This is just a hypothetical conversation.