what round for 500-1000 yard distances?

[ElGatoBandito]

Why? I'm just trying to learn.

Also how about a 270 mag or 270 weather? Is it considered good long range? Mid to larger caliber. I couldn't imagine anything bigger than a 308

No long range bullet selection.
Go get a 6.5mm or a .30 cal.

If you're trying to learn, go get yourself a Remington 700 SPS Varminter in .308. Get a new stock and glass and you have a 1K capable gun. Now learn to reload.

[ElGatoBandito]

I just got a .308 and hope hit the 1000 yrd range but a 300 WM is a ball buster. Might as well shoot a 50 cal.....I kid but those that shoot a lot understand.

I want to kill with my .308 minus the shoulder bruising.

My plan is to download to shoot at 600yds or so to get better, then ramp up to full force for 1K shooting.

If I had a perfect rifle in .308, I would throw 200 or 220 grain Sierra Match Kings out of it. You fly slower, but they stay super sonic for longer.

[txsteele]

My plan is to download to shoot at 600yds or so to get better, then ramp up to full force for 1K shooting.

If I had a perfect rifle in .308, I would throw 200 or 220 grain Sierra Match Kings out of it. You fly slower, but they stay super sonic for longer.

SOOOO intriguing. Can you explain or post a link that can???

[overcomer401965]

6.5 Creedmoor all day long.

[txsteele]

My plan is to download to shoot at 600yds or so to get better, then ramp up to full force for 1K shooting.

If I had a perfect rifle in .308, I would throw 200 or 220 grain Sierra Match Kings out of it. You fly slower, but they stay super sonic for longer.

BTW......I'm being serious. I'm NOT messing with you......EDIT

This statement has me very fascinated.

[reconman]

SOOOO intriguing. Can you explain or post a link that can???

This is a new one to me too! Enlighten me!

Heavier bullet, lower velocity, 9.8m/s/s, but they stay faster longer? I gotta learn....

[ropewfo]

The .308 and 300 WM indeed shoot the same projectile. The difference comes in more subtle ways. The WM is the faster of the two. Also, it tends to short heavier projectiles, which is where the BC comes into play. A .308 can shoot the same, but the twist rate for them are generally made for lighter bullets. With all of that said, this is a personal decision. I chose the 300WM. It is custom and it has a muzzle break. It has a tremendous amount of load data was the reason I went that direction. Be careful, it is like bow hunting. LOL It can become a passion. I now have a custom 223 for prairie dog hunting out to 500. A 7mm STW, a .308 5r, and the WM custom. My next one will be something in the 25 caliber family. Good luck in your quest.

[ElGatoBandito]

SOOOO intriguing. Can you explain or post a link that can???

Give me a sec, I can post JBM ballistics stats.

I'm having some technical difficulties with getting a screenshot.

I'll tell you the basics (you can plug the numbers in here: http://www.jbmballistics.com/cgi-bin/jbmtraj-5.1.cgi If you want) then I will do battle with technology until I get the pics up.

Numbers I used:

155 grain Sierra Match King @ 2900 fps

210 grain SMK @ 2500 fps

I didn't completely pull those numbers out of my arse, I know a guy that loves the .308 and has 5 of them that are specialized for bullets from 145 grains to 220 grains. These are his rough numbers.

Basically the best way I can describe it is like the difference between throwing a wiffle ball and a golf ball of the same size. I don't care how fast you can throw a wiffle ball... you can throw the golf ball further because it cuts through the wind easier.
That goes back to BC, the higher the BC the better it can cut through the wind both flying forward and through a cross wind.

Also, Bullet shape has alot to do with it. I can take a .375 H&H and load it with streamline Very Low Drag (VLD) bullets and load it with big round nose dangerous game loads and the VLDs will fly much better.

Now back to battle with technology.

[txsteele]

The .308 and 300 WM indeed shoot the same projectile. The difference comes in more subtle ways. The WM is the faster of the two. Also, it tends to short heavier projectiles, which is where the BC comes into play. A .308 can shoot the same, but the twist rate for them are generally made for lighter bullets. With all of that said, this is a personal decision. I chose the 300WM. It is custom and it has a muzzle break. It has a tremendous amount of load data was the reason I went that direction. Be careful, it is like bow hunting. LOL It can become a passion. I now have a custom 223 for prairie dog hunting out to 500. A 7mm STW, a .308 5r, and the WM custom. My next one will be something in the 25 caliber family. Good luck in your quest.

OMG...WTH.....Do I have to buy one of everything???? Holly Hell!!!

[rcjunky007]

300rum nuff said

[texag93]

300rum nuff said

Gets my vote

Rem 700 SENDERO in 300 RUM

[ElGatoBandito]

Alrighty. My battle is done. I am VICTORIOUS!!

The point where the 155 hits the sub sonic barrier is at roughly 1076 yards, while the 210 hits the sub sonic barrier is at 1245 yards. And when you hit that point you are packing more punch because your bullet is heavier.

[ElGatoBandito]

Ok, ignore the last picture. I accidently used the litz bullet, not the HPBT (I used that in the 155)

[Cottonfish]

I would suggest the 7mm Rem Mag, it seems to be the darling of the LR hunting crowd now. Standard 1/10 twist barrels can handle projectiles up to around 170gr, with BC's over .600. Custom faster-twist barrels (1/8 or so) can handle all current VLD bullets up to around 190gr. Tolerable amount of recoil, reliable killer on deer and elk-sized game to 1000yds, ballistically excellent VLD bullets available to the handloader. HSM loads Berger bullets if you want factory loaded ammo, you can also get factory loaded Nosler Accubonds, Swift Scirocco's, Barnes TSX's, etc. from Remington, Winchester, Federal, etc. Only real downside might be the belted case, and Lapua doesn't offer 7RM brass........

I'm in the middle of developing a load for my 7RM based on a 168gr Berger bullet and H1000 powder, looking for 2900-3000fps from a factory 24" barrel.

Stu

[rhale]

I like my 6.5 Creedmoor but I would pick a different caliber if I was hunting large game at long range. It plenty good for whitetails.