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    #31
    Walmart is the Devil!!!!!!!!!! And I personally want enough ammo so next time this happens I won't have to stand in a line at 8 in the morning to try and maybe get some. Especially .22lr. What a joke. If that is hoarding then I guess I'm a big ole hoarder, lol. The problem I have is the guys buying it and reselling it for twice the price. But that's with anything in a supply and demand market.

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      #32
      Originally posted by Texas Stalker View Post
      Walmart is the Devil!!!!!!!!!! And I personally want enough ammo so next time this happens I won't have to stand in a line at 8 in the morning to try and maybe get some. Especially .22lr. What a joke. If that is hoarding then I guess I'm a big ole hoarder, lol. The problem I have is the guys buying it and reselling it for twice the price. But that's with anything in a supply and demand market.
      I have bought a ton of ammo since all of this shortage stuff happened. Before all of this I was a 550 box of 22 a case of shotgun shells and 1 or two boxes of every caliber I owned kind of guy. That's including hand gun and rifle calibers. I just went and bought ammo for when I wanted to go out and shoot. Now I plan on having 2,000 rounds of 5.56, 3,000 rounds of .22 and 1,000 rounds for every pistol caliber. I will also keep 100 rounds for each high powered rifle I own.


      Call me a hoarder I don't care I prefer to call myself prepared. Funny thing is I haven't shot but 15 rounds of .243, 15 rounds of .270, 3 rounds of .300 win, 5 rounds of .45 and 50 rounds of .357 since the school shooting. I also have a .45, 9mm, and a AR in 5.56 that I haven't even fired yet.

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        #33
        Originally posted by Buckshot4900 View Post
        Are you telling me that you have just enough ammo to last the rest of the year and if you were in the store and saw ammo sitting on the shelf that you wouldn't by a little extra?
        If you say yes, you're the first person I have seen that would do this.
        I'm not going wait in line and try to hoard all the ammo I can get my hands on and I'm certainly not going to jack up the price and sell it at a ridiculous price like we've all seen happen.
        I don't think anyone was directing their comments directly toward you. I know I wasn't, and I don't think this guy was either.
        But people that have thousands if rounds already and are still hoarding/preparing for war/whatever are the cause of the ammo shortage.
        If I wanted/needed ammo, I would much rather walk into a store and be limited in the amount I could purchase when the alternative is to walk into a store with no limits, but empty shelves.
        I can understand the point you were trying to make with your "boycott", but as others have said, the caliber you wanted was not limited at Academy. In addition, even if it was limited to 1 box at both stores, you still could've purchased the 2 boxes you wanted to buy. Instead, you went to both stores and bought nothing, then complained about it on the Internet. The end result is, the next guy can buy a box of 7mag and you chose not to.

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          #34
          Wow i just bought .22 cci mini mags at walmart, 3 boxes!

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            #35
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            Originally Posted by Okiehunter View Post
            I wonder why there is a shortage.

            Could it be guys buying ammo they do not need just to add to their stockpile? Imagine what would happen if everyone of us, all Americans, were to head to the gas station and top off our gas tank, even if we did not “need” the gas? I can tell you what happens, it happen on 9-11 and gas prices went sky high and availability went to near zero.

            We are sometimes our own worst enemy, just saying.

            Are you telling me that you have just enough ammo to last the rest of the year and if you were in the store and saw ammo sitting on the shelf that you wouldn't by a little extra?
            If you say yes, you're the first person I have seen that would do this.
            I'm not going wait in line and try to hoard all the ammo I can get my hands on and I'm certainly not going to jack up the price and sell it at a ridiculous price like we've all seen happen.
            This is not even worth a response. I am not telling YOU anything. It is my opinion that the main reason we have a shortage of ammo is because of those how are buying every box they can get their hands on.

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              #36
              Originally posted by Thundervee View Post
              Wrong, academy will sell you how many ever boxes you want of 7 mag. They just will only sell you 1 box of
              .9mm
              40
              223
              308
              .22lr
              Maybe 1 or 2 more , but they have the list posted,
              I bought 4 boxes of 7-08 they said that was ok cause it wasn't on the limit list
              This
              I just bought 3 x .270 and 3 x 22.250 and could have bought more but I DID NOT NEED 50 BOXES OF EACH. I believe if we didnt have people hoarding ammo just to hoard it, we all would be able to get a box or two of whatever we need

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                #37
                I buy ammo everytime I get a chance and can spare the money...

                WHY?? Because I can and will use it up and its nice to have some spare ammo on hand if a student needs some to fill a gap in their own supply...

                Even as a Instructor I like to attend several classes a year, totalling anywhere 3500 to 5000 rounds to cover them. A single class last year was well over 3000rds. That dont account for the rounds I use up teaching classes.

                I like to have on hand around 1000 rds for each weapon I have and I feel thats a little low considering I can run through that in two days on the range if I wanted too.

                I have zero issues finding ammo a normal prices, I just dont get in a hurry to buy it, heck my 14 yr old daughter has had zero issues buying ammo at walmart to fill her needs for a class that she wants to attend.

                To each his own and its nobodys business who , what , when or why someone buys ammo..
                Last edited by Tuffbroadhead; 05-20-2013, 06:39 AM.

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                  #38
                  It sort of does become other people's business when so many flippers buy all the ammo jut to double the price.

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                    #39
                    IMO, if you bought hundreds, possibly thousands, of rounds regularly 12 months ago, then you are not the problem. I don't understand why, but that is not the point of this topic.

                    I don't understand why anyone would need or want to shoot 1000+ rounds every week, but everyone has to have a hobby. I don't understand it, but I'm not going to judge it either.

                    If you have a stockpile of ammo in which some of it is more than 5 years old and you're still buying more, I don't understand you, but again, I'm not going to judge you. You've been hoarding ammo for years and you are not part of the current ammo supply problem.

                    If you started buying ammo in large quantities in the last 5-6 months, then you and all the others like you ARE the problem.

                    I don't understand people's complaints about the ammo purchase limits that some stores are enforcing. I'd much rather walk into a store and be limiting to 1 or 2 boxes of ammo than walk into a store and have no limits, but no ammo on the shelves. To complain about a 1 box limit in 2 different stores when you only wanted to buy 2 boxes, and then not buy anything because of the limits, just doesn't make a lot of sense to me. To complain about the same when at least one of those stores had NO limit on the ammo, makes even less sense.

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                      #40
                      I agree. But will add IF someone is actually shooting the ammo they buy I see no problem. But like you say if they shoot that much odds are they have always been buying a lot of ammo and are not part of the current problem.

                      I think this is like oil a few years back. Once "investors" saw a shortage they take advantage by buying it all...knowing someone will have to buy it higher from them.


                      I'm hoping this whole mess ends up doing us all good. More ammo production = lower costs...and more Texas jobs.

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                        #41
                        Originally posted by RiverRat1 View Post
                        I agree. But will add IF someone is actually shooting the ammo they buy I see no problem. But like you say if they shoot that much odds are they have always been buying a lot of ammo and are not part of the current problem.
                        That's what I meant with the 12 month comment.
                        If they were buying it and shooting it 12 months ago, they are not the problem. They've been doing it for awhile and supply has been fine.
                        It's the new batch of hoarders that started after Sandy Hook that are the reason for ammo shortages/limits.

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                          #42
                          Hoarders arent now nor have ever been the problem...


                          The flippers are the problem. They are making money hand over fist they can do this easily and start with very little revenue.

                          start with 100 bucks and buy ammo. Sell it for 200 bucks.
                          Buy 200 bucks worth of ammo and sell it for 400 bucks
                          buy 400 bucks worth of ammo and sell it for 800 bucks....

                          YOu see the trend... now these people can BUY A WHOLE LOT OF AMMO with the revenue they made off 100 bones....

                          A hoarder has some extra cash 2-4 times a month... He buys 50-200 bucks worth of ammo each time and then has to WAIT TO GET PAYED AGAIN.

                          Flippers can buy more ammo daily as they sell it with in hours online. you can go from 100 bucks to 1200 bucks within a couple weeks...

                          HOARDERS AINT THE PROBLEM.

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                            #43
                            Originally posted by RiverRat1 View Post
                            It sort of does become other people's business when so many flippers buy all the ammo jut to double the price.
                            Still nobodys business....

                            Its called free enterprise...I DONT LIKE IT, but it is what some do to make a extra buck...I call it rape, others call it supply and demand.

                            I still dont care...

                            Hoarders are not the problem....its a simple supply and demand issue..

                            I find it funny that others want to place blame on every one else...

                            Purchase limits dont bother me either, I would rather see others get a little spread out then one guy make off with it all..

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                              #44
                              Originally posted by Coach W View Post
                              Hoarders arent now nor have ever been the problem...


                              The flippers are the problem. They are making money hand over fist they can do this easily and start with very little revenue.

                              start with 100 bucks and buy ammo. Sell it for 200 bucks.
                              Buy 200 bucks worth of ammo and sell it for 400 bucks
                              buy 400 bucks worth of ammo and sell it for 800 bucks....

                              YOu see the trend... now these people can BUY A WHOLE LOT OF AMMO with the revenue they made off 100 bones....

                              A hoarder has some extra cash 2-4 times a month... He buys 50-200 bucks worth of ammo each time and then has to WAIT TO GET PAYED AGAIN.

                              Flippers can buy more ammo daily as they sell it with in hours online. you can go from 100 bucks to 1200 bucks within a couple weeks...

                              HOARDERS AINT THE PROBLEM.
                              I'll respectful disagree.
                              Who do you think is buying most of the ammo from the flippers at outrageous prices?
                              If the hoarders/preppers weren't buying it, the flippers wouldn't have anyone to sell to.

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                                #45
                                Originally posted by denowt View Post
                                I'll respectful disagree.
                                Who do you think is buying most of the ammo from the flippers at outrageous prices?
                                If the hoarders/preppers weren't buying it, the flippers wouldn't have anyone to sell to.
                                The people buying the $100 boxes of .22lr are the people that either don't have any at all and need some in a hurry to shoot or people that think that that'll be the only box they'll ever be able to buy again. It isn't hoarders. They know better than to waste that hard earned money on a box of shells they have 5000+ of. The craze has got people everywhere buying stuff that they normally wouldn't. That's the problem.

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