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    Originally posted by Coach W View Post
    I don't think of it that way by any means... Is that why our great great grandfathers carried "open"? or did they carry any way they wanted too because it was their right to do so?
    Preach on brutha Coach!!!!!!

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      Originally posted by Coach W View Post
      I don't think of it that way by any means... Is that why our great great grandfathers carried "open"? or did they carry any way they wanted too because it was their right to do so?
      that's fine, you keep it your way and i'll keep it mine. like i said, it's something i choose to ride the fence on. i'm not my father's father, i live in a different time and place. things were different back then.....but that was then and this is now. like i said, i see it as a regression not progression but respect everyone's right to have a different opinion on the matter all the same.

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        Originally posted by muddyfuzzy View Post
        that's fine, you keep it your way and i'll keep it mine. like i said, it's something i choose to ride the fence on. i'm not my father's father, i live in a different time and place. things were different back then.....but that was then and this is now. like i said, i see it as a regression not progression but respect everyone's right to have a different opinion on the matter all the same.
        I understand what you're saying and respect your opinion. However I feel exactly opposite... I feel we aren't progressing but rather regressing currently, with each new law we fall further away from freedom and liberty.

        Progress in my eyes would be regression... By that I mean giving more power back to the people and less to the government. Get back to the principles set forth in the constitution and have a limited government again with less intrusion into my personal daily life.... Less laws, not more. Less lawyer written laws, and more common sense in legislation.

        I understand you may not feel the same. I just felt the need to clarify my position.

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          Originally posted by Coach W View Post
          I understand what you're saying and respect your opinion. However I feel exactly opposite... I feel we aren't progressing but rather regressing currently, with each new law we fall further away from freedom and liberty.
          i agree that the additional legislation over the last three decades has been a steady intrusion on our freedoms. we have seen both sides of the debate act with poor information, personal/professional agendas and classless behavior at times all the while not doing what is best for the country and/or it's people.

          i appreciate your ability to have a rational and civil discussion on the matter and i understand where you are coming from.

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            Originally posted by muddyfuzzy View Post
            that's fine, you keep it your way and i'll keep it mine. like i said, it's something i choose to ride the fence on. i'm not my father's father, i live in a different time and place. things were different back then.....but that was then and this is now. like i said, i see it as a regression not progression but respect everyone's right to have a different opinion on the matter all the same.
            Respectfully, back when our ancestors rode the range and had a six shooter on their hips, they did so for protection, right? Protection from those that wished to do them or their family, or friends harm, right? And, protection from wild animals and such too I supposed.

            What’s so different today? They had police officers of sorts back then. Perhaps not as many as today, but then we have more people today too. They had criminals back then, but I guess they called them outlaws. We have catchy names for them too like nutjobs, whackos, terrorists, and let’s not forget gang members.

            To me the progression you speak of is just another politically correct thought. We have just as much need to carry a weapon today as they did back then, and they carried concealed too. Not that much has changed.
            Last edited by TX_Kevin; 04-24-2013, 09:35 PM.

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              I wouldn't necessarily say its a failure to our children to show force to curtail violence, just an obvious display of available force to deter any violence from individuals who's parents failed them.

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                Originally posted by muddyfuzzy View Post
                i agree that the additional legislation over the last three decades has been a steady intrusion on our freedoms. we have seen both sides of the debate act with poor information, personal/professional agendas and classless behavior at times all the while not doing what is best for the country and/or it's people.

                i appreciate your ability to have a rational and civil discussion on the matter and i understand where you are coming from.
                Yup. Big gooberment... Needs to be checked.... And they certainly aren't able to do it themselves... Or to themselves.... So it must come from the people.

                I often wonder when we the people will say... Hey that's enough boys. Y'all quit playing and get to work. The ship, the ship is sinking... I'd prefer to start bailing water than to keep playing music so everybody can die to a soundtrack... But that's just me.

                Where's the line? I think it's a personal decision. But my line is drawing near. When you start going after amendments in the bill of rights, well there's my line.

                I'd say we need the tiny word "total" to the 17 amendment... "The Senate of the United States shall be composed of two Senators from each state, elected by the people thereof, for a TOTAL of six years; and each Senator shall have one vote..."

                There I fixed it. A total of six years. Not six years at a time... 6 years is a long time to deal with a mistake of choice... But it would be better than dealing with it until that mistake died, or decided to move on. That's like buying a car and then discovering you bought a lemon... But still having to rely on that broken pos for atleast 6 years, if not most of your life.....

                What other job on the planet is that nice? Boss calls you in next week and says hey man I thought you were gonna be good at this job, but boy howdy was I wrong... You couldn't do this job if I hired 6 more people to help you. But hey, you got it for 6 years or until you decide you want to quit.... Lol. That would be nice right!!!

                Leahy has been a senator for 38 years and is still there... Longest term length as a senator? 51YEARS.

                POLITICIAN IS NOT A CAREER CHOICE. Y'ALL GO GET A REAL JOB BOYS AND GIRLS.
                Last edited by Coach W; 04-24-2013, 10:01 PM.

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                  I fully support open carry and wish to see it pass. I don't think I would do it all the time but I would much rather have the choice to do it if I see fit. There would of course be some jack wagons out there strappin iron (or plastic) on their hip but they would still have to pass a class and background checks. And I would much rather carry my 1911 comfortably OWB than my compact 9mm concealed, if I need to use my weapon I want full size shoot ability.

                  In a way this America sucks and I wish our founding fathers and John Wayne were here to whip the **** out of the current administration.

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                    The majority of all states allow open carry. Statistics are definitely in our favor for those that support it. I hope Rep. Pickett's constituents vote his ***** out of office.

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                      Originally posted by Jackson357 View Post
                      Agree. I do not support the open carry. It's gonna do different things. Either make you & your family a target or persuade them to go after an easier target. If they can see your pretty gun chances are your putting yourself & family in harms way. It's like the 21' knife rule vs a holstered pistol. They have in there mind what they want. Now you have to react. They are gonna win every time. Y'all keep that open carry.
                      If you don't agree, then don't do it.

                      There are concealed carry folks all around you, in all types of businesses everyday.

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                        Originally posted by texag93 View Post
                        Y'all can have all that open carry. I'll keep them guessing. Open carry just makes you the first target for a nut job looking to shoot a place up.
                        If this is true, can You show Me online, in a newspaper that tells about someone openly carrying a handgun was shot/killed by a hoodlum.... I was just looking and I didn't find any kind of stories..

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                          He obviously wasn't injured but you get the idea. And with all due respect, anyone who thinks it can't or won't happen, needs to get their head out of the sand.

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                            That was not directed to you mystic.

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                              Originally posted by jnors06 View Post
                              I fully support open carry and wish to see it pass. I don't think I would do it all the time but I would much rather have the choice to do it if I see fit. There would of course be some jack wagons out there strappin iron (or plastic) on their hip but they would still have to pass a class and background checks. And I would much rather carry my 1911 comfortably OWB than my compact 9mm concealed, if I need to use my weapon I want full size shoot ability.

                              In a way this America sucks and I wish our founding fathers and John Wayne were here to whip the **** out of the current administration.
                              My 1911 conceals fine...

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                                Call, email, call, email, call..... Then do it again!!!! Not necessarily in that order but you get the point. Rep. Pickett isn't going to get the message from Texas citizens if we don't speak up. That's how this whole gubberment thing works as stated by many before me. I will continue to pester his office until it at least gets a vote. If you don't support it, that's 100% alright in my book. But if you do then it's your duty to make your voice heard.

                                Rep. Pickett, Joe C

                                Room 1W.05, Capitol
                                P.O. Box 2910
                                Austin, TX 78768
                                (512) 463-0596
                                (512) 463-6504 Fax

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