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    Originally posted by Voodoo View Post
    It has to go to “17” because thats a “Q” number, “Trump & Patriots are in control”

    I saw this on another forum, I had too
    lol.........lol.............lol............lol

    and thanks to those that posted the process on rules.

    but what if Dems like some of the "backing out of concessions" and vote for the rules package?
    maybe that's the deal they made.
    Dems knew they were gonna get stuck with most of it one way or another, why not cherry pick a few they could work around. Seems they are always one step ahead.

    it would just mean the Republicans(Freedumb coalition) was bamboozled again.
    Last edited by hpdrifter; 01-07-2023, 12:43 AM.

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      I don’t understand all the legal mumbo jumbo but this agreement better work how they’re saying it will/should or we just got railroaded again. At least ttech and walker will be happy!

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        If the House does what on paper are goals this is good for Americans. Line item and having 72 hrs to read, understand, and get legal opinion before voting is great. I’m not holding my breath but I applaud the 20 that bucked the 2 party system and demanded some things in right direction. Let’s just hope McCarthy had some swamp washed off of him with this process

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          You don't trust a rattlesnake to not bite you unless you first pull out it's fangs.
          That to me is what they attempted to do to McCarthy. There's only one problem. A rattlesnake will grow new fangs. Then what?

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            Just got up, anybody know who flipped for the last vote or how did it go down? saw the 14 vote and then went to bed.

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              Originally posted by Bassdeer View Post
              Just got up, anybody know who flipped for the last vote or how did it go down? saw the 14 vote and then went to bed.
              Vote 14 had 216 McCarthy 4 for others and 2 present. Vote 15 had 216 McCarthy and 6 present and that was enough. So the 4 voting for someone else changed to present and that did it. None of the final 6 actually changed their vote to McCarthy, technically. That is my understanding.

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                  Originally posted by LWC View Post
                  Vote 14 had 216 McCarthy 4 for others and 2 present. Vote 15 had 216 McCarthy and 6 present and that was enough. So the 4 voting for someone else changed to present and that did it. None of the final 6 actually changed their vote to McCarthy, technically. That is my understanding.
                  El Correcto !

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                    You are correct- The 4 others voted present therefore changing the math formula and McCarthy had enough. They have pulled his fangs and through this process made it easier to cut the snakes head off in the future if it grows more fangs. I hope they move quickly while it’s all fresh on McCarthys memory

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                      Originally posted by LWC View Post
                      Vote 14 had 216 McCarthy 4 for others and 2 present. Vote 15 had 216 McCarthy and 6 present and that was enough. So the 4 voting for someone else changed to present and that did it. None of the final 6 actually changed their vote to McCarthy, technically. That is my understanding.
                      wimpy way out I guess.

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                        What a "leader" lol, but hey, at least he isn't a 16 time loser.

                        https://twitter.com/jd_durkin/status...m_medium=email

                        Oh the irony in all this. Republicans elect losers, democrats winners. Tell me again how there isn't someone pulling the strings in the background.

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                          Hakim Jeffries gavel handover speech was proof he shouldn’t be anywhere near the speakers chair. A chance to act like a statesman and show some class and respect for tradition and instead he turns it into a democrat stump speech throwing out numerous petty insults. This is the best candidate from the dems for SoH?

                          SMH.

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                            The folks that voted present caved. They knew voting present would lower the threshold and get McCarthy elected and yet they can still claim they didn't vote for him.

                            When you don't vote in any election you vote for the winner.

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                              So the Freedom caucus’s demands were met? Sounds like a victory to me.
                              Last edited by Ætheling; 01-07-2023, 09:57 AM.

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                                Originally posted by Ætheling View Post
                                So the Freedom caucus’s demands were met? Sounds like a victory to me.
                                With their odds and what they were up against I respect them for what they tried to do and also for what they got accomplished.

                                You will NEVER get everything you want in negotiations when dealing with that many people.

                                Would I have liked to see McCarthy totally defeated? Yes
                                Was it realistic to think that was going to happen?
                                No


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                                Last edited by iamntxhunter; 01-07-2023, 10:11 AM.

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