Speaker of the House

[LWC]

So the Freedom caucus’s demands were met? Sounds like a victory to me.

That is my understanding. We shall see how it plays out.

Hopefully he’s better than nasty pelosi

[hpdrifter]

What a "leader" lol, but hey, at least he isn't a 16 time loser.

https://twitter.com/jd_durkin/status...m_medium=email

Oh the irony in all this. Republicans elect losers, democrats winners. Tell me again how there isn't someone pulling the strings in the background.

all I can say is; when you have almost the full force of media against you and the agencies of the government against you, it's kinda hard to be winners.

[diamond10x]

Anybody see ol’ eye patch with bloody knuckles or the rep from Alabama with a cat on his head trying to intimidate Gaetz?

[Artos]

https://mobile.twitter.com/ChuckCallesto/status/1611583823376011265

[OldRiverRat]

So the Freedom caucus’s demands were met? Sounds like a victory to me.

The whole process was a move in the right direction, for those that were calling the ones holding out “idiots” I think you need to reconsider your position on who the idiots are


Rep. Andrew Ogles Reveals What Concessions Were Made in Battle for Speaker of the House
Roger L. SimonRoger L. Simon
January 6, 2023 Updated: January 7, 2023
News Analysis

Although not yet sworn in, first-year Congressman Andrew Ogles from the Tennessee Fifth District found himself in the middle of a historic maelstrom when he arrived in Washington on Dec. 31, 2022, in the company of his family.

But Ogles knew a bit of what he was getting into because he had already become a member of the Freedom Caucus and was already involved in the ongoing negotiations that, as of this writing, seem to have vastly reformed the way the U.S. Congress will do business in exchange for allowing Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) to become Speaker.

Ogles should be known to many Epoch Times readers for his participation in the unique primary debate—using domain experts instead of journalists to ask the questions—sponsored by this company in concert with the Nashville Republican Women.

Little did we know, nor probably did he, that Ogles would end up being one of the 20 to instigate this monumental change they say will return the Congress to the original intention of the Founders as The People’s House.

I spoke with Ogles by phone the night of Jan. 6, 2023, before the roll call vote during which, it was said, two of the remaining rejectionists who couldn’t accept McCarthy personally would absent themselves so that the magic number would be lowered and the new Speaker could go over the top.

Apropos, Ogles informed me that what many had guessed was true. His absence from voting in a previous round was also planned. He waited to see that all was going according to plan before stepping forward to flip his vote to McCarthy after the initial round.

For Ogles, the basis of all the negotiations was to establish the rules of the game in Congress that had been altered over the years beyond recognition. As he pointed out, the rules of a game almost always determine the winner.

He shared with me a list of some of what has been roughly negotiated to date. The devil, as always, is in the details.

As has been reported, it will only take a single congressperson, acting in what is known as a Jeffersonian Motion, to move to remove the Speaker if he or she goes back on their word or policy agenda.
A “Church” style committee will be convened to look into the weaponization of the FBI and other government organizations (presumably the CIA, the subject of the original Church Committee) against the American people.
Term limits will be put up for a vote.
Bills presented to Congress will be single subject, not omnibus with all the attendant earmarks, and there will be a 72-hour minimum period to read them.
The Texas Border Plan will be put before Congress. From The Hill: “The four-pronged plan aims to ‘Complete Physical Border Infrastructure,’ ‘Fix Border Enforcement Policies,’ ‘Enforce our Laws in the Interior’ and ‘Target Cartels & Criminal Organizations.’”
COVID mandates will be ended as will all funding for them, including so-called “emergency funding.”
Budget bills would stop the endless increases in the debt ceiling and hold the Senate accountable for the same.
That’s all Ogles would tell me for now, but there is undoubtedly more in ongoing negotiations that could continue even after the final Speaker vote. No word, from him anyway, on committee assignments or agreements, although there are discussions on positions for Freedom Caucus members. Ogles did acknowledge his own interest in the Financial Services Committee, due to his economic background, or the Judiciary Committee.

No word either, so far, of a different kind of Jan. 6 investigation, unless that is intended to be wrapped into the new “Church” Committee.

I asked Ogles if there would be bad blood, as many are warning, after these days of heated negotiation. He denied it. The Republican majority, he said, was too small to afford that, and they all knew it.

Knowing human nature, I wouldn’t have completely believed him on that one had I not heard the resounding and welcoming applause given for every flipped vote. Many of those who voted for McCarthy were one hundred percent in favor of the changes negotiated by the 20, who may well be rewarded in the history books for their initiative.

What has been going on is being referred to as “chaos” by Democrats and the media, including, regrettably, many at Fox News and other supposedly right-leaning outlets. Still, others claim this has been a victory for the “extreme right, imposing their views.”

It is anything but. It is and has been for the last few days democracy as it should be practiced, and as it is practiced in many democratic assemblies across the word, just not, lately, in the USA


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[Wits_End]

Do term limits have to be signed through three branches or do they regulate themselves?

[tvc184]

Do term limits have to be signed through three branches or do they regulate themselves?

???

[tvc184]

Do term limits have to be signed through three branches or do they regulate themselves?

If you are talking about passing a law, it be like any other law. It would require the passing of the law in the House and the Senate. Then it would have to be signed or allowed to pass into law by the president.

However….

Is it a constitutional issue?

Since the Constitution sets the qualifications and terms for Congress, can they pass such a law or would it require a constitutional amendment?

About 25 years ago some states tried to pass laws or state constitutional amendments to limit terms in their own states and the Supreme Court rejected that saying the Constitution sets the qualifications for the House and Senate and states cannot override that.

Does that translate the US Congress also and there would need to be a constitutional amendment like there was for the president or can Congress alone change terms?

[DapperDan]

https://mobile.twitter.com/ChuckCall...83823376011265

I’d sure love to know what that photo js about lol


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[Wits_End]

If you are talking about passing a law, it be like any other law. It would require the passing of the law in the House and the Senate. Then it would have to be signed or allowed to pass into law by the president.



However….



Is it a constitutional issue?



Since the Constitution sets the qualifications and terms for Congress, can they pass such a law or would it require a constitutional amendment?



About 25 years ago some states tried to pass laws or state constitutional amendments to limit terms in their own states and the Supreme Court rejected that saying the Constitution sets the qualifications for the House and Senate and states cannot override that.



Does that translate the US Congress also and there would need to be a constitutional amendment like there was for the president or can Congress alone change terms?

This is what I was asking, thanks for the answer and more.

Seems like the demand to vote on term limits is a dead end anyway. Highly doubt senate and president would sign.

[hpdrifter]

This is what I was asking, thanks for the answer and more.

Seems like the demand to vote on term limits is a dead end anyway. Highly doubt senate and president would sign.

It's dead as far as expecting it to happen.
Politics...plant a seed.
I would venture to say a large percentage of Americans are for term limits.
It's about showing the American people that they DO NOT have the peoples best interest in mind....as if some didn't already know. It's just for exposure.

[LWC]

How were presidential term limits enacted?

[Shane]

How were presidential term limits enacted?

The 22nd Amendment was ratified in the early 50s after FDR was elected 4 times.

[Death from Above]

Didn’t DC reps and senators used to come from the pool of them elected into the states branches?

We need to stop electing folks for DC…sent up those in the Texas senate and house.

[camoclad]

I beleive your correct. Really isn't sposed to be federal elections at all.