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Originally posted by OleTomTalker View PostThat goes against what all the polls have said and I agree. A large portion of Rubio's backers have said they would move to Cruz. A huge amount of Cruz voters have said they would move to Trump before Rubio. It's time for Rubio to get out but I'm starting to think he believes that if they can split the delegates enough to not have to give Trump the nomination, they will find some way to give it to him.
A brokered convention would not hand Trump a victory. If everyone thinks the GOP hates, Cruz, theyd rather slit their wrists than deal with Trump.
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Originally posted by Tommyh View PostHeard that this morning as well.
A brokered convention would not hand Trump a victory. If everyone thinks the GOP hates, Cruz, theyd rather slit their wrists than deal with Trump.
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Originally posted by Be10dwn View PostIf the gop goes against the will of their constuants if Trump falls a little short, that would be just as bad for the gop as Trump would be. They are definitely in a bad situation.
The other thing people are missing is that Wall Street already owns HRC. So the establishment GOP is going to get even weaker.
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Originally posted by BrandonA View Post[ATTACH]778005[/ATTACH]
The GOP not being able to align and wasting their time bickering amongst themselves for so long has left the door open for HRC to pick up the pieces.
I got a bad feeling on this one gents!!
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There is no reason for Rubio or Cruz to get out. At least not until after the Florida primary. If Rubio loses there, he will certainly be under a lot of pressure to pull the plug. Cruz would probably have to make him a deal to appoint him as VP or Sec. of State but I think he would do that. On the other hand, if Rubio wins Florida he will continue and a brokered convention seems more likely.
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Originally posted by treestand View PostThere is no reason for Rubio or Cruz to get out. At least not until after the Florida primary. If Rubio loses there, he will certainly be under a lot of pressure to pull the plug. Cruz would probably have to make him a deal to appoint him as VP or Sec. of State but I think he would do that. On the other hand, if Rubio wins Florida he will continue and a brokered convention seems more likely.
If Rubio and Kasich keep going until they get to their home states' primaries on the 15th (which they will), then it will be more difficult to get everybody behind Cruz after that and still have enough states left to beat Trump. Might still be possible, but way less likely to work.
If everybody but the top 3 drops out and those 3 stay in all the way to the convention, then it's pretty likely that it will be a contested convention. If that happens, it's doubtful that Trump will emerge from the war zone with the nomination. He'll then go independent and torpedo the GOP out of spite.
If Trump gets more than 1,237 delegates in the primaries, then the GOP bosses could try to change the rules after the game is over and nominate somebody else anyway, but that would be horribly wrong. It would kill the party for good (no huge loss, I guess). Trump would go independent and torpedo their chances anyway.
The GOP bosses hate Cruz, but they need to rally behind him NOW if they want to beat Trump. That's the only way they can beat Trump AND Hillary. Even Lindsey Graham said so in an interview this morning. He came out in favor of Rubio and Kasich dropping out and everybody getting behind Cruz. It killed him to admit it, but at least he admitted it.
That said, even if the rest of the party got behind Cruz and he went on to win enough delegates to get the nomination, I would be shocked if Trump didn't run independent anyway. The only way he won't run independent is if he gets the GOP nomination.Last edited by Shane; 03-02-2016, 11:10 AM.
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This **** aint new.
Rubio loses homestate - Rubio votes to Cruz.
Kasich Votes ..to cruz
Carson votes (hes hangin in to make himself available for a admin job)...to cruz
Trump's wallet is in the voters and supporters he's had since he first awed them with his sales pitch... he hasn't garnered any new ones.
Cruz's wallet is his own, rubios, carsons, Kasich's, and the voters that up to this point were undecided.
Far from over..
What I did find absolutely hilarious was watching Christis sucking *** next to Trump last night... it brought back images of him giving at speech AS A REPUBLICAN at a DNC even for OBAMA.... lookin for the handouts and favors...
That leopard didn't change its spots either...
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Time for people to do the right thing.
Probably won't happen with these jack wagons that ain't got a chance anyway.
A Cruz/ Rubio ticket would more than level the playing field.
Cruz would kill Hillary in the general election debates. I feel he would not pull any punches at all.
Anything can happen is all we can hope for.
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Originally posted by muzzlebrake View PostLooks like the winner take all states could help Cruz a lot especially if the others do the right thing
I don't know the rules in those states. Does the candidate with the most votes automatically win, or does a candidate have to get at least 50% in order to win? If a majority of votes is required, then they'll have runoffs between the top 2, I assume. ??
If a plurality is all that's required, Trump will probably get lots of those states. If a majority is required, and that means a runoff between the top 2, then that should favor Cruz.
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