No need to elect a president

[friscopaint]

Amazing how people talk about due process to remove the illegals but all laws were ignored by the government to let them in and actually fly them in but now the "law" takes precedent to remove them, so ignore immigration laws by one administration and it's fine but the next one enforcing the immigration laws is not fine......TDS sure is rampant for those that now are suddenly about preserving the laws of the land while willfully turning a blind eye to it the 4 years prior.....not difficult to see in these on who suffers TDS but now taking the "High" road on democracy and justice to "preserve" the democracy while trying to destroy it for the 4 years prior.

[Playa]

Then what are they in your opinion?

Cause letting them set up shop here and run rough shod over Americans is BS and should be dealt with a heavy hand IMO, much more aggressive than just rounding up and deporting.

they are illegal immigrants , no different than Hmong, Sudanese, or dozens of other countries of origin.

I absolutely agree that allowing them to run free is not the answer. But there is a huge leap from rounding them up and deporting and sending them to be held in another country. All I am saying is the gang/cartel connection should be proven in court. Without that anyone can be rounded and accused of the affiliation and sent to El Salvador.

it also forces these judges to make a public decision of protecting criminally connected immigrants over US citizens with evidential proof. That’s even more precarious for them.

Bottom line is the Executive cannot unilaterally make policy and enforce without the involvement of the legislative branch and judicial. That by definition is tyranny. It may be tyranny you happen to agree with, but tyranny none the less

[SmTx]

they are illegal immigrants , no different than Hmong, Sudanese, or dozens of other countries of origin.

I absolutely agree that allowing them to run free is not the answer. But there is a huge leap from rounding them up and deporting and sending them to be held in another country. All I am saying is the gang/cartel connection should be proven in court. Without that anyone can be rounded and accused of the affiliation and sent to El Salvador.

it also forces these judges to make a public decision of protecting criminally connected immigrants over US citizens with evidential proof. That’s even more precarious for them.

Bottom line is the Executive cannot unilaterally make policy and enforce without the involvement of the legislative branch and judicial. That by definition is tyranny. It may be tyranny you happen to agree with, but tyranny none the less

The best thing about the right is the hypocrisy 🙂

let the left do a smidgen of it and the crying would never cease.

The US would be worlds better when folks learned to look at everything objectively vs subjectively

[tvc184]

I agree somewhat with the OP, but also disagree. We have to let the law be the law, but politicians, (and make no mistake, federal judges ARE politicians), have been making political decisions that favor their respective parties for years. It’s almost impossible to impeach one, but it needs to happen sometimes. Judge shopping is real !

I think this: The framers had no idea that politics was going to get this corrupt. If they had, I think we would have seen term limits from the get-go. Their idea was that a farmer, a wheelwright, a doctor, a soldier, an any occupation you can name, would go to Washington, serve a term or two and go back and take up his real life. It might have worked before industrialization but not now that you can turn $150,000 per annum job into millions in a few short years.

Our system is flawed and our corrupt politicians on both sides do not want to change it, and they won’t. Lip service is all we get from them. Money talks and bull$h*t walks !

They knew.

Read some of the Federalist Papers like maybe 10 or 68. They get kind of long winded but I think it is in 68 where it states that an office holder might not do what Is best for the country, but what he will do to help him get reelected.

In 10 it is discussed that a man isn’t allowed to judge his own situation because he will be biased and it will corrupt his integrity. It is with great reason that a body of men can’t be partiesc and judges at the same time but what are so many important legislations but juducial determinations.

Basically they sitting in judgment of themselves when they pass legislation.

They knew. They just didn’t have any constitutional remedy that the majority would sign off on.

[diamond10x]

they are illegal immigrants , no different than Hmong, Sudanese, or dozens of other countries of origin.

I absolutely agree that allowing them to run free is not the answer. But there is a huge leap from rounding them up and deporting and sending them to be held in another country. All I am saying is the gang/cartel connection should be proven in court. Without that anyone can be rounded and accused of the affiliation and sent to El Salvador.

it also forces these judges to make a public decision of protecting criminally connected immigrants over US citizens with evidential proof. That’s even more precarious for them.

Bottom line is the Executive cannot unilaterally make policy and enforce without the involvement of the legislative branch and judicial. That by definition is tyranny. It may be tyranny you happen to agree with, but tyranny none the less

I don’t agree on the first part that they are just like any other illegal immigrant. They are coming here with the intent to expand their cartel/gang activity.

Have you come across any stories of people being sent to El Salvador or deported to wherever that were accused of being gang/cartel/terror sir and weren’t? Personally I’ve only seen stories of where the media spins it then it comes out they were found to be a documented gang/cartel member and illegal alien.

I agree decisions need to be made by all three branches but congress has been sitting on their thumbs and the judicial branch has been operating outside their purview. I fail to see where this is tyranny by the executive branch that you claim. If anything I think a case could be made that parts of the judicial branch are trying to rule by tyranny, blocking the executive branch from carrying out its constitutionally afforded duties.

[SmTx]

They knew.

Read some of the Federalist Papers like maybe 10 or 68. They get kind of long winded but I think it is in 68 where it states that an office holder might not do what Is best for the country, but what he will do to help him get reelected.

In 10 it is discussed that a man isn’t allowed to judge his own situation because he will be biased and it will corrupt his integrity. It is with great reason that a body of men can’t be partiesc and judges at the same time but what are so many important legislations but juducial determinations.

Basically they sitting in judgment of themselves when they pass legislation.

They knew. They just didn’t have any constitutional remedy that the majority would sign off on.

they also studied history and not post WW2 US superpower history.

lots of short term memory for a young nation that has only been a super power for less than a 100 years.

[tvc184]

While I understand that Trump needed to undo a lot of what Biden did, I hate the executive order. IMHO the most patriotic thing Trump (or any politician) could do would be to hamstring the EO. It should be temporary (maybe 3 months max) unless adopted by the legislature and unrepeatable for at least 4 years. The POTUS was never meant to legislate and for decades now every president has been abusing it more and more.

When Trump issued his executive order attempting to completely close down the borders, it should end today?

Today is exactly 3 months since Trump took office. So the border patrol would no longer have to try to stop illegal aliens because the president’s time just ran out, correct?

[stickerpatch59]

The best thing about the right is the hypocrisy 🙂

let the left do a smidgen of it and the crying would never cease.

The US would be worlds better when folks learned to look at everything objectively vs subjectively

W H A T T T T ? where were you the last 4 yrs? Serious question. Did you just wake up from a looooong nap?

[stickerpatch59]

Amazing how people talk about due process to remove the illegals but all laws were ignored by the government to let them in and actually fly them in but now the "law" takes precedent to remove them, so ignore immigration laws by one administration and it's fine but the next one enforcing the immigration laws is not fine......TDS sure is rampant for those that now are suddenly about preserving the laws of the land while willfully turning a blind eye to it the 4 years prior.....not difficult to see in these on who suffers TDS but now taking the "High" road on democracy and justice to "preserve" the democracy while trying to destroy it for the 4 years prior.

EXACTLY!! Are we supposed to take every single one and have a day in court???? How long would that take???? And who is going to pay for it???? Ship their azzes out just like they came in; without any permission/authority!!

[donpablo]

When Trump issued his executive order attempting to completely close down the borders, it should end today?

Today is exactly 3 months since Trump took office. So the border patrol would no longer have to try to stop illegal aliens because the president’s time just ran out, correct?

It has always been the border patrol's job to try and stop illegal aliens. That didn't start with Trump's executive order. What it would do is put pressure on the legislature to adopt these popular EO's just like they are now considering changing the law to accommodate trumps EO to end birthright citizenship.

[E.TX.BOWHUNTER]

EXACTLY!! Are we supposed to take every single one and have a day in court???? How long would that take???? And who is going to pay for it???? Ship their azzes out just like they came in; without any permission/authority!!

The court system and judges are just as bad as congress. They flap their gums, move like frozen molasses, and just don’t give a rat’s south end about anyone else but themselves. They themselves are 100% willing to ignore the laws of the land and the Constitution. Just look at the last 4 years. The president, courts, and Congress did not enforce our immigration laws and thus ALL are in violation of the Constitution. They must be held accountable or expect more of the same.

The executive branch is in charge of and MUST enforce our immigration laws per the Constitution. The last 4 years the Constitution was ignored by all 3 branches + the MSM. That is how everyone gets away with trying to portray this administration as being radical or extreme.

Immigrants are required to follow our laws when entering or face expulsion. Pretty dang simple.

Getting off my soapbox now.

[Voodoo]

But they are agents, y’all just don’t recognize for whom…Satan

[Hoggslayer]

They are not foreign agents of an enemy state sent to infiltrate us

I guess you could say the same thing about Al Qaeda or the Taliban. Do they have to fly a flag from a sovereign nation to be considered an enemy?

[donpablo]

The executive branch is in charge of and MUST enforce our immigration laws per the Constitution. The last 4 years the Constitution was ignored by all 3 branches + the MSM. That is how everyone gets away with trying to portray this administration as being radical or extreme.

What are some specific examples of how the judicial branch ignored the Constitution? If they did, they suck and should've been stopped. If Trump ignores the constitution, he sucks and should be stopped. If/when the executive or the judicial branch ignore the constitution, we have a process for rectifying that. That process is more important than any one person.

[RiverRat1]

Why do we need a presidential election if we are going to let judges run the country??????

1st - I'm very ignorant on this topic.

I don't quite understand. What if another Judge says the opposite? Is it whatever judge rules first or what?
Tell me what judge we're talking about and what he said exactly.