Gunfire at White Rock-- 30 min DPD response-- Lessons Learned

[.243 WSSM]

Fair enough. Is it in the hood?

The OP mentioned choosing where to live. I hear gun shots almost every weekend at my house. Either from the guys on a small range on property or the idiot AC repair guy shooting into the retention pond ****

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Yes, northeast Dallas is considered the hood.

[myway]

Fair enough. Is it in the hood?

The OP mentioned choosing where to live. I hear gun shots almost every weekend at my house. Either from the guys on a small range on property or the idiot AC repair guy shooting into the retention pond ****

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I would compare it to target practice at the Memorial park area. Minutes away from multi million dollar homes and minutes away from ****sville. More concerning would be that I bet it’s less than 5 minutes away from one of Dallas’s larger police stations.

[muzzlebrake]

Relax! They just shooting fish coming over the spillway.
Or the Ghetto is moving north reclaiming it's territory.
Whiterock been going ghetto for years now. Ain't safe for anyone to walk those trails or ride a bike.
Every free access lake park around Dallas is taken over every weekend by mostly illegals. That's why a lot of the parks have been leased to private marina companies that charge to enter and use. Cities don't want to police these areas because of the cost so they are turn over to private companies. Grapevine lake is mostly all private now to cut down on outside traffic. Lewisville too. Joe Pool not so much. Can't stir them with a stick out there on weekends.

[glen]

Well if Dallas did like Austin and lost a good portion of their police Force because of City Council and Mayor decisions (Voters Choice) then here is the issue. Due to lack of manpower calls have been adjusted- calls like this with no victim or act of violence are now (General Broadcast) or at best a very low priority(roll by when someone gets a chance). Manpower is to the point in Austin to where they don’t send Officers unless there is an act of violence taking place. Suspicious persons in yards don’t even get police response anymore.

So the response time you got was not bad at all. As far as what they found there is probably nothing reported- Officer drove by scene and no suspect there. Even if there are 100s of rounds of spent brass from someone shooting what do you want them to do? And for a crime equivalent to a traffic ticket is what we are talking about

[camoclad]

Did some work recently in and around pleasant Grove. Had to go into multiple homes and yards during the job. It was eye opening. I've never seen so much animal feces. Babies just crawling all over. Most of the houses are not really livable. It's America, but it's third world.

[duckhunter175]

White rock lake is not in the boondocks. It's in the heart of Dallas. There is no property they could be shooting on that would be legal around White rock lake.

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I think he was struggling with his geography and/or comprehension this morning!! Gotta get that coffee first!

[duckhunter175]

To clarify a few things-- once they actually put the call in the queue and the desk officer prioritized it we did get a timely response- but that took over 20 min.

I think its shameful that 9x 911 calls (of the ones I know of) basically went ignored by dispatch when they received accurate, timely and credible (off duty LEO) information.

This wasn't 4th of July or other holidays where celebratory gunfire (or fireworks) are all across the city. This was a normal saturday night at 9pm (not late and not an uncommon time for there still to be people to be at and around the lake, the WRL shopping centers etc. Not to mention all the homes, apartments, businesses in proximity to that parking lot.

As far as the offense-- yea I guess if you want to be simpleminded maybe all you have is discharge in a municipality or at best a deadly conduct because of all the homes, businesses, etc. Neither of which are tickets fyi.

But- if you think about the type of person who is willing to sit there and crank off rounds for over 20 min at 9pm on a Saturday there is probably plenty of other criminal activity that is afoot and that would certainly make contacting those folks worth it.

Lastly- Northeast Division has more than 10 officers on a Friday night working and that is how many were assigned to calls at the time this occured because DPD has an active calls website that shows location, type and # assigned.

[Mitchell8]

If y’all are off duty leo go over there yourself next time if we are so simple minded on how big of a deal this was

[Greenheadless]

If I were in the city and heard 100 rounds of gunfire nearby my residence

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This is am everyday occurrence where we are in Hewstun.

[duckhunter175]

If y’all are off duty leo go over there yourself next time if we are so simple minded on how big of a deal this was

Not sure who “we” might be but that comment wasnt directed at you bud. Making the point theres more to it than just one or two random pop shots. Im not gonna get into this further with you because youre already in over your head.


For the guys that live in Dallas I’ll reiterate; make the calls, encourage others to report and call and call your substation dont just settle for “thats how it is here”

[Greenheadless]

To clarify a few things-- once they actually put the call in the queue and the desk officer prioritized it we did get a timely response- but that took over 20 min.

I think its shameful that 9x 911 calls (of the ones I know of) basically went ignored by dispatch when they received accurate, timely and credible (off duty LEO) information.

This wasn't 4th of July or other holidays where celebratory gunfire (or fireworks) are all across the city. This was a normal saturday night at 9pm (not late and not an uncommon time for there still to be people to be at and around the lake, the WRL shopping centers etc. Not to mention all the homes, apartments, businesses in proximity to that parking lot.

As far as the offense-- yea I guess if you want to be simpleminded maybe all you have is discharge in a municipality or at best a deadly conduct because of all the homes, businesses, etc. Neither of which are tickets fyi.

But- if you think about the type of person who is willing to sit there and crank off rounds for over 20 min at 9pm on a Saturday there is probably plenty of other criminal activity that is afoot and that would certainly make contacting those folks worth it.

Lastly- Northeast Division has more than 10 officers on a Friday night working and that is how many were assigned to calls at the time this occured because DPD has an active calls website that shows location, type and # assigned.

I would suggest you move if it is that bad.

[glen]

So Discharge in City is not class “C” anymore? I agree though everyone should call and demand police service. If your Police Department is full strength your Cala should be to Chief’s staff. If your Dept is underpowered your calls should be to the Mayor and City Council.

[Goldeneagle]

Sounds like a normal night in the part of Dallas I work in.

[duckhunter175]

So Discharge in City is not class “C” anymore? I agree though everyone should call and demand police service. If your Police Department is full strength your Cala should be to Chief’s staff. If your Dept is underpowered your calls should be to the Mayor and City Council.

In large municipalities (over 100k) it’s a class A. Def gonna follow up; more so to pressure their dispatch to get it right- the new Chief seems to be moving things in the right direction so I feel there’s a chance to have some things heard.

As far as moving- it’s true we chose to live here; proximity to our jobs and family mattered and it’s the best place to be for DISD. However; Dallas is Dallas, the crime rate and poverty levels change literally block by block. My wife works from home now for a different firm so our calculus may be changing.

[duckhunter175]

Sounds like a normal night in the part of Dallas I work in.

No doubt about that!! We end up working in some of those areas.

Def not the norm in Lakewood; been in the area 5 years now and aside from the holiday gunfire this was a new “range” to me!