Game wardens may need warrant now

[Geezy Rider]

All states are stop and frisk states.

Just sayin’……

Should I have reworded that to “Stop and Identify “ state? It’s my understanding that in Texas we are not obligated to provide a license unless we are actually in the act of doing whatever the license is allowing us to do, such as driving a car. I must produce my license if I’m behind the wheel of my car but if I’m just a passenger then I’m not required to. Is that correct or have I been watch too much utube?

[Lost10mm]

It's always been odd to me that a game warden can go onto any property they want at any time. I get the logic, but I don't agree with it. They should be stuck to govt property unless they have a warrant. There's plenty of it for them.

[jshouse]

What's Burt Reynolds up to these days?

[Mathewsshooter]

Super stoked about it no one should be able to come on my property that I worked to buy pay for maintain unless I want them there

[tvc184]

Should I have reworded that to “Stop and Identify “ state? It’s my understanding that in Texas we are not obligated to provide a license unless we are actually in the act of doing whatever the license is allowing us to do, such as driving a car. I must produce my license if I’m behind the wheel of my car but if I’m just a passenger then I’m not required to. Is that correct or have I been watch too much utube?

Correct. In Texas under the Failure To Identify law, you only have to identify yourself (not produce an ID) if you are under arrest.

As you noted, obviously when doing an regulated action that requires a license such as fishing or driving, you must show the required license to be legal.

[txhunt7]

[QUOTE=Quackerbox;16456745]George Straight did all that and still sings.


Maybe when he was younger but having a hard time believing that one with his large Dilley ranch, and he appears to on the straight and narrow road these days. Not buying it unless you have a factual story

[txhunt7]

the good the bad and the UGLY

Luckily most of my encounters have been ok

But here's my rant -
Guess I watched too much Tex Game Warden on TV but not really impressed when they catch non-english speaking fisherman with no license undersized fish and say don't do it next time, get a license, see ya. Then when I was a young man they pulled my rat boat coming in from offshore, I had a ton of fish (reds gulf trout and black drum) and miscounted had 1 too many black drum packed down in the ice they wrote me up. Silly mistake and I was wrong. Meanwhile $250000 snapper boats plowing past us and he was concentrating on poor me LOL 22' aquasport with a 1978 175 Evinrude. Get a Life

[glen]

Geezy- if you are legally detained you don’t have to show a license but required to identify. If you are a pass in a vehicle you are not legally detained unless you are. Not wearing seatbelt etc. if driver is stopped for speeding when the car stops you can get out and walk away if you want. Not required to stay or answer anything

[tvc184]

Geezy- if you are legally detained you don’t have to show a license but required to identify. If you are a pass in a vehicle you are not legally detained unless you are. Not wearing seatbelt etc. if driver is stopped for speeding when the car stops you can get out and walk away if you want. Not required to stay or answer anything

Why do you have to identify if only detained?

[tvc184]

Geezy- if you are legally detained you don’t have to show a license but required to identify. If you are a pass in a vehicle you are not legally detained unless you are. Not wearing seatbelt etc. if driver is stopped for speeding when the car stops you can get out and walk away if you want. Not required to stay or answer anything

I agree that the passengers don’t have to say a word (or the driver for that matter) but why can’t an officer detain and control an already detained passenger?

Is there Texas case law which is more strict that the US Constitution/SCOTUS?

[Lungbustr]

They should have to have a warrant just like any law enforcement.

Crazy how people want to give up our constitutional rights.

[bpa556]

There was at least 3 in my room. They were nice but I doubted their intentions. We were in a larger room with 3 beds. It's not that big of a deal, but also thought this is not right.

Did they kick the door in, or did someone allow them in?


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[Quackerbox]

[quote=txhunt7;16457218]

George Straight did all that and still sings.





Maybe when he was younger but having a hard time believing that one with his large Dilley ranch, and he appears to on the straight and narrow road these days. Not buying it unless you have a factual story

Proves my point really.

Just as myself and others witnessing the distinct odor of burnt Marijuana rolling out of another famous country singers bus at hlsr. When you tell people no one believes you.

Other than my word there are no facts.

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[bpa556]

Except those are all illegal searches and no evidence could be used in court

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They are only illegal searches if he lacks suspicion. If he can articulate suspicion that the coolers are/have been use in hunting/fishing activities, he can search them without consent/warrant because they are mobile.

Suspicion may be blood/feathers/scales on coolers or in bed of truck, truck bed full of hunting/fishing accoutrements, etc.

None of this is cut and dried.

For those whining that Wardens gan go onto your property whenever they want and for whatever reason, you’re wrong.

They can only go on your property without a warrant to investigate matters under their jurisdiction. That means they must suspect that hunting/fishing is occurring on the property.

ANY LEO has the same authority to enter your property for investigative purposes under the Open Fields Doctrine. You may personally agree or not, but it’s SCOTUS precedent for the last 100 years.

Entering your “ranch” is not the same as entering your home.

No LEO may enter/search your home/curtilage without consent or a warrant.


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[IowaHunter]

No LEO may enter/search your home/curtilage without consent or a warrant.

Warden just walked into the farm house in Iowa during supper. Ten people for Sunday meal sitting there. My cousin asked if he wanted something to eat. His response was, “I thought this was a hunting lodge.” It’s good to know your grounds Mr. DNR. That guy is gone and was a tool.