I would too BUT, if his buddy is a stand up man he will understand that his BIL is the bad guy here not chef. This isn’t a typical lease where everyone pays to a landowner. It’s family land and even if some money is exchanged it’s still a special situation and he has to understand what position the bil put chef in with his family. Chef put his but on the line for this guy and he let his bil put that in jeopardy. Chef just made the call that would prob be coming from the father in law that owns the land.
Those are your words. I am a hard ___ and even I thing that somewhere down the road you wish that you would have made a different decision. I popped off to a god friend of mine about a deer lease issue 15 years ago and wish I had kept my mouth shut. I even apologized almost as soon as I said it , but still wish till this day that I had not said it about a deer lease issue. If he is your best friend/best man/godfather of my children I think I think you need to try another solution or you will regret it later.
I don`t know many that would have admitted to it. That does say a little bit about him.
It is easier to forgive once than it is to be bitter over it from now on. Good luck and god bless.
From the way the best friend called and took ownership of the situation, the friendship seems fine and in good order.
I am sure he will understand your position, and the decision of the group.
I dont see how you can say Chef chose the deer over his friend. I'm certain Chef still considers the friend his friend. A lease doesnt make a friendship.
Sounds like if it was just up to you, you would handled it different. Either your family is unaware or indifferent to your relationship to this guy. If hes that good of a friend and you'd take a bullet for him, maybe you should walk too and you guys could find a lease together somewhere else? Tough situation for sure.
I think some people are missing the point that this is the Father-In-Laws land and it took 3 years of asking before he could get his friend on there to hunt. If a landowner/FIL is that particular then you better mind your P's and Qs and follow the rules.
I Hunt 2 places. One where you can sit in anyone's stand. The gentleman will actually tell you "hey if you want an Axis deer you should sit in my stand. I have been seeing them every afternoon." The other place is the exact opposite. No hunting except your own stand. Cannot shoot does even though you see 20 in one sitting. Land owner doesn't share pictures but gets mad at you because you shot his wife's buck. No bow hunting in October because it gives you a month head start..... Some people are just peculiar and you have to follow their rules.
Unfortunately it puts Chef in a bad spot with his buddy but it's not his call.
So you kicked your buddy/best man/kid's Godfather off of a lease for a busted up 8pt? Hell, I guess y'all like deer more than I do. I get rules, but I don't have that many good friends and I'll be ****ed if I'd trade one in for a deer. Hope y'all all kill big ones.
I had to kick my BIL off the lease after one year. When I invited him to join I made the rules clear including occasional guests shooting a pig. Every time he came down it was the random guest of the week. One weekend he showed up with his FIL and his BIL and four kids. HIs BIL claims his son shot a spike but we know better. The kid was not excited at all and supposedly it was his first deer. I just told my BIL this isn't working and he was off.
So you kicked your buddy/best man/kid's Godfather off of a lease for a busted up 8pt? Hell, I guess y'all like deer more than I do. I get rules, but I don't have that many good friends and I'll be ****ed if I'd trade one in for a deer. Hope y'all all kill big ones.
I would agree with this. I would tell friend that his buck tag has been used and move on.
Maybe a hefty fine? maybe he has to pay next year but can't hunt - can still go to camp with you guys?
If you are telling us the full story, then seems like something could be worked out - are there written lease rules - what does it say about screwups!?
Maybe a hefty fine? maybe he has to pay next year but can't hunt - can still go to camp with you guys?
If you are telling us the full story, then seems like something could be worked out - are there written lease rules - what does it say about screwups!?
The Lease Boss (One of the land owners) said he was out. Other Hunters agreed. Chef had to deliver the news.
Tough Spot for Chef as he and Friend are very close. Friend and the family are close as well. Just a bad situation all around.
Sorry Chef to speak up on this.... Just wanted to clarify.
I was not involved but have talked to Chef about this since I am close to both he and the friend.
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