Hated to do it but it had to be done....

[TexasBob]

So you kicked your buddy/best man/kid's Godfather off of a lease for a busted up 8pt? Hell, I guess y'all like deer more than I do. I get rules, but I don't have that many good friends and I'll be ****ed if I'd trade one in for a deer. Hope y'all all kill big ones.

This. Dang y’all are rough. Take a bullet for him, yeah I know that’s an exaggeration my daughter is about the only one on that list, but can’t forgive a mistake he let his friend make.


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[coach51]

First of all...I am not in charge of a hunting lease, but, i am fortunate to hunt with some great people and a great man in charge. Just think about this for a minute....I was sitting in the Dr. office with my best friend, when he was told he has stomach cancer.....The Dr. said it is bad, he was going to remove all but a sliver of his stomach after 6 weeks of Chemo. Best friends don't come by very often for sure....This would be a no brainer for me, i would give up a lot more than one deer, for the Dr. to tell him that he will never have cancer again, and he would live as long and happy life. The thought of losing someone like that will make you stop and put things in perspective...I just hope there is a way that you can make it right for the both of you.

[TX_Hoghunter]

His friendship is more important than a deer. I'd take a bullet for this guy.

What we know so far is that you are his friend. What we are about to find out is if he is your friend. If he truly is then he will understand and get over it. If he sulls up over it he was probably not the friend you thought he was and you will be better off in the long run knowing it now. You did the right thing.

-john

[gekko man]

Horns make a grown man go nuts!

I have so many bull**** stories I don’t have time and no one wants to hear them. I am to old to worry about this kind of stuff anymore. It’s just a deer and a friend is a friend.

To grow a good deer population you have to have rules and follow them! I would have not kicked him off but just suggested that it may best to move on!

[Mike Javi Cooper]

You agree to the rules, you live or die by the rules...

But I got to say that rules like that are one of the biggest reasons I no longer hunt deer...

[Buckshot-73]

Robert, I am honored to call you a friend..

I can imagine this was a kick in the nut for you, but I will not tell you what you should do..What I will say, is I support you on whatever decision is right for the situation.

[Rafter S]

Been through close to the same. Let my BIL hunt our place so he can take his son. Next thing I know his son has his friends hunting and posting pics on Facebook. Got the boot and did not bother me one bit having to do it.

He knew the rules. No one else allowed to hunt. EVER

Next year he hunts and brings some of his buddies from work.

I found out from a friend of mine who is also his friend and was hunting. Called me to thank me for letting him hunt, I said what?????? He replied , oh yea , I’m hunting with your BIL on your place, he said it’s ok

Called the game warden, anybody on our place that does not have written permission gets nailed. called the BIL and told him to get off the spread and take his friends yesterday.

But we have stands nd cameras. I replied, thanks for the donations, you are not welcome
BIL calls the wife and she tells him he is a dumb a** and not to come crying to her


Some people don’t get it

[Kurtproy]

Too many of us have gone mad! And I’m guilty, but trying to get right again. Go back to being a boy and think about that feeling you had when you were going to the lease. Not much compares. And while a big buck was and is always a hope it didn’t make or break the weekend. It’s still fun. That’s what it’s about. Looking at my money spent one Spring a few years ago I thought about hanging it up only to hear my boy one day say dad, read this paper I wrote (he was 10). His instructions were to write about a special place. On his own he decided to write about the deer lease! No where did he even mention the deer he shot. He talked about exploring, camp fires, shooting stars, the food, seeing skunks, building a outhouse, finding fossilized rocks, rabbit hunting around camp with his pellet gun, driving the ranger, etc, etc. ‘Management’ has done nothing but ruin friendships, cost us money, make others money and has ultimately ruined the so called ‘deer camp’ of old. Don’t get me wrong, we all want that big one to walk out but we are missing the point I think. I know the hunting industry is too far gone to ever go back but putting things in perspective in a world that does nothing but cause division is the least we as hunters can do.

Count that buck as your buddy’s for the next year or two or remove his guest privileges and be done with it. Me and my best friend/best man have finally worked out getting on a lease together since I moved off at the age of 18, now 44. And I’ll be dang if either of us is kicking the other off without a couple deep discussions/warnings if either of us bend the rules on a buck that makes us happy.

Pretty sure God created animals in regard to our survival and not to become idols that take the place of HIM or the bonds and relationships HE has formed in our lives. And unfortunately I am not wearing a white shirt but I am trying hard to get some of these stains out.....

[chrisgunguy]

Lets see the buck.

[DRT]

Too many of us have gone mad! And I’m guilty, but trying to get right again. Go back to being a boy and think about that feeling you had when you were going to the lease. Not much compares. And while a big buck was and is always a hope it didn’t make or break the weekend. It’s still fun. That’s what it’s about. Looking at my money spent one Spring a few years ago I thought about hanging it up only to hear my boy one day say dad, read this paper I wrote (he was 10). His instructions were to write about a special place. On his own he decided to write about the deer lease! No where did he even mention the deer he shot. He talked about exploring, camp fires, shooting stars, the food, seeing skunks, building a outhouse, finding fossilized rocks, rabbit hunting around camp with his pellet gun, driving the ranger, etc, etc. ‘Management’ has done nothing but ruin friendships, cost us money, make others money and has ultimately ruined the so called ‘deer camp’ of old. Don’t get me wrong, we all want that big one to walk out but we are missing the point I think. I know the hunting industry is too far gone to ever go back but putting things in perspective in a world that does nothing but cause division is the least we as hunters can do.

Count that buck as your buddy’s for the next year or two or remove his guest privileges and be done with it. Me and my best friend/best man have finally worked out getting on a lease together since I moved off at the age of 18, now 44. And I’ll be dang if either of us is kicking the other off without a couple deep discussions/warnings if either of us bend the rules on a buck that makes us happy.

Pretty sure God created animals in regard to our survival and not to become idols that take the place of HIM or the bonds and relationships HE has formed in our lives. And unfortunately I am not wearing a white shirt but I am trying hard to get some of these stains out.....

Well put.
I also see the side of enforcement of rules. That's a deer a paid member won't get a chance at. In my case it's a substantial financial and time investment each year and if a non member shot a buck I had been watching grow in my area I may feel cheated by an act like that.
That said I would look for other options to handle it.
Even our lease manager has let me slide when I misjudged a deer's age. I was figuring I was one and done when he told me he never had kicked anyone off over a deer.
Perspective is everything. Chef is in the middle and I'm sure it's a lot of stress and responsibility that will hurt for a long time.
In the end though it's not always "just a deer" as some on here will contend.

Gary

[Traildust]

Been through close to the same. Let my BIL hunt our place so he can take his son. Next thing I know his son has his friends hunting and posting pics on Facebook. Got the boot and did not bother me one bit having to do it.

He knew the rules. No one else allowed to hunt. EVER

Next year he hunts and brings some of his buddies from work.

I found out from a friend of mine who is also his friend and was hunting. Called me to thank me for letting him hunt, I said what?????? He replied , oh yea , I’m hunting with your BIL on your place, he said it’s ok

Called the game warden, anybody on our place that does not have written permission gets nailed. called the BIL and told him to get off the spread and take his friends yesterday.

But we have stands nd cameras. I replied, thanks for the donations, you are not welcome
BIL calls the wife and she tells him he is a dumb a** and not to come crying to her


Some people don’t get it

Dang....you kept his stands and cameras?

[txtrophy85]

I have several close, close friends who I won't hunt with. Hunting brings out the worst in people. You give them a little leeway and they abuse it ( as in the OP's case ). Someone comes to shoot hogs they shoot deer. They come to shoot management bucks they take a trophy, want to bring all their other buddies, etc.


Lease I'm on now, Landowner started asking me about guests. I told her I won't bring any guests ( I'm the only one hunting the ranch with my kids). She starts telling me "well, we don't mind if you bring a guest or two..." I told her ma'am, I appreciate the offer, but in my experience guests make things worse rather than better" and she understood.

Too good of a thing going for my kids to risk it on a person who may get greedy and break clear cut rules.


Why people can't follow lease rules is beyond me. Its no different than walking into someones house and disrespecting their home

[mocephus]

It sounds to me like you are between a rock and a hard place. I get the feeling you would like to let your best friend stay on lease but your pops in law might want him gone. Good luck with that. Your pops in law has nothing to lose but you do. Maybe a face to face with all parties will help. Good luck sir.

[Codie]

I am definitely with the "that counts as his buck for this season and that guest is never allowed back on the property" group on this one. It doesn't sound like anything near bad enough for an immediate removal from the lease

[Buff]

His friendship is more important than a deer. I'd take a bullet for this guy.

Could you have counted the deer that was shot as your deer?
Seems less painful than a bullet