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    #61
    So since he's your friend the rules don't apply?

    I would kick the guy off and remain friends with him. I agree a deer is not worth losing a friendship. If the guy that ignores the rules can't separate the deer lease from a true friendship then he wasn't that good of a friend to begin with. He should man up, own the mistake, and not let it ruin a good friendship. The lease boss is doing what he's supposed to do. It's not personal.

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      #62
      I acquired my current lease just to spend campfire time with my good friend of 25yrs as well as the rest of the guys on the lease. Rules are very much enforced when there’s thousands of dollars being paid per season and in contracts. That being said if I was in this situation I would give up both of my bucks that year before telling my bestest friend to leave the lease. And we all know paying for a lease now days isn’t exactly affordable now days. But there’s been years in which I don’t even shoot a single thing but pigs but it’s the experiences and the memories that I make do with. One day wether this lease or another my children and his will be doing the same. I’m with the true friends are hard to find and are truly one for every lifetime. If my buddy or I did this we would speak up truth about it and fess up too. The reaction was over the top.

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        #63
        Originally posted by Chef View Post
        His friendship is more important than a deer. I'd take a bullet for this guy.
        HUH?!
        So did you kick him off or not??!

        You either kicked him off the lease over the importance of a killed buck or you took the bullet for him and didn't...can't be both...

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          #64
          Couple questions. Was this a predetermined consequence for this violation? Would grandpa, uncle, dad or you have received the exact same fate for the same infraction?

          If not, this decision comes across as purely punitive and pretty short sighted, as the family could have leveraged his mistake for restitution for the family or betterment of the property. Instead, this is going to hurt your best friend for a long time, even if he doesn’t admit it.

          I appreciate the goose/gander approach to rule enforcement, but it just seems there would have been several other resolutions that would yield much less scar tissue.

          Anyway I hope things don’t start trending downward between you and your friend. If this was a known guaranteed outcome, sounds like y’all will be fine.

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            #65
            I am conflicted with what I think but I think if the guy is that good of a friend, he will not let getting kicked off the lease hinder the friendship. It could be the family's decision and not the OP's decision. His guest, his screw up and the fact he did not explain the rules is not good IMHO.

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              #66
              Seems like going a bit overboard IMO.

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                #67
                Originally posted by Mayhem View Post
                Seems like going a bit overboard IMO.


                Agreed


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                  #68
                  It's Probably not his rules he is on a lease with his inlaws . and had to talk them into letting his friend on the lease

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                    #69
                    Hell our lease manager kicked his pastor off our lease. Rules are rules. But in saying that how long have you been hunting with him,is this the first time or is he a habitual offender. I would have to take that all in consideration. But he seems to be really up front I would take away is hunting rights next year he could be the camp cook.

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                      #70
                      Bros before does....or bucks. I'da got on his azz, he'd be done hunting this year and the other guy would never be allowed on the place again......but I wouldn't have went and ate cheese to the landowner.....especially over a trash buck.

                      I bet that bestest friend, godfather, soulmate, brother from another mother would approve of you putting this story out there on the www. You let him know.....right?

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                        #71
                        Originally posted by HotRod Hunter View Post
                        It's Probably not his rules he is on a lease with his inlaws . and had to talk them into letting his friend on the lease
                        A true friend would go to the inlaws and explain what happened, in that it was partially his fault for maybe not being clear of what the rules were.
                        A true friend would then tell them that since his friend broke the rule, that he also would be leaving the lease with his friend.
                        Let the in-laws chew on that for a while and if they say, OK then so be it.
                        No reason to lose a friend over a deer.
                        You can always find another lease, but a friend won't be that easy.
                        So much for taking a bullet for the guy!
                        Last edited by Jimbo47; 12-18-2018, 06:37 AM.

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                          #72
                          I own my property and if I allow a friend to shoot hogs then that's all he will shoot. I pay for all the feed and if I need help removing hogs then that's all that will be shot. I had a friend hunt with me last year and I told him "mature bucks only". Well we were back in camp after a hunt and he mentioned to me that he saw a lot of does and he should have shot one. I calmly told him that if he had shot a doe then he would be packing his stuff never to return to my property. Its about respecting other peoples rules and property. Its a privilege to hunt as a guest.

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                            #73
                            Thank you guys for understanding the predicament I was placed in. To clarify.... its not my property and it was a group decision based on votes from all the hunters on the lease. I was just the lucky guy who got to deliver the message since I vouched for him.

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                              #74
                              Originally posted by Chef View Post
                              Thank you guys for understanding the predicament I was placed in. To clarify.... its not my property and it was a group decision based on votes from all the hunters on the lease. I was just the lucky guy who got to deliver the message since I vouched for him.
                              Sounds like you and your friend have some mending to do, and I hope it works out for you both!

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                                #75
                                I stopped reading about halfway through

                                If my guest broke the rules I would expect to be kicked off. Nothing to do with friendships or anything else

                                As a guest you are a reflection of your host

                                Unfortunately the guest is the reason more and more leases are instituting a no guest policy

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