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    #31
    It deeply saddens me that this is happening. This is one more example of spoiled brats neglecting and destroying a legacy that they inherited while sitting on their fat *****e$ and didn't deserve. And then selling it to a guy like Kroenke - a guy who is as selfish as it gets! Yet another example of greed exceeding honor and a dark blot on Texas tradition.

    Everyone involved in this deal should be ashamed! My grandad, who was the GM for many years, and my dad who was raised on the ranch must be rolling in their graves; along with Paul, Guy & Electra Waggoner who created this arrangement.

    This is such a tiny portion of the property that it's tantamount to most ranches having a tortoise living in a hundred foot pen not being willing to leave it alone. At the very least, the families should have been given a lease (by one of the parties) that ends when the last member of each family, that's currently living there, passes away. Comparing this to a hunting lease or somebody you know's ranch is ridiculous - you could fit every lease and every ranch on this forum inside the Waggoner and still have a gigantic ranch. It would have had ZERO effect on Kroenke (as it had on the Waggoners for the past 90+) to make a fair arrangement for these people. Those who say that these people were stupid to build there have obviously never had experience with these giant ranches - it was (and still is) a very common practice for these big ranches to do this for workers' families. The sad fact is that you can't trust your kids or grandkids to uphold your promises or the values that built the legacy they get handed! The King and many other ranches do the same thing. These people got jacked by some rich people for no valid reason. I'm so sick of people justifying bad behavior because "it's legal!" Just because something is legal doesn't always make it right! This is one of those situations good people who built and maintained that ranch were backhanded by the law.






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      #32
      Kronke sounds, and acts, like a first rate a**hat.

      I'd be opposed to any dddd yankee buying land in Texas....ya'll ain't got enough of them in Austin????

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        #33
        Like was stated earlier, if original owner cared for the families he could have deeded them the property the houses stood on. Not the new owners fault that the past owner didn't take care of them and the inevitable situation.

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          #34
          You can't change reality over a bleeding heart. They knew what they were getting into. The new owner didn't make a bad decision the renters did.

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            #35
            Originally posted by rtp View Post
            The previous owner should have dealt with this and not put it on the new owner. The new owner owes them nothing and is being generous with the amount of time he is giving them to find other arrangements. Sad deal and I feel for those involved but when it comes to big money, emotions and feelings dont have a part.
            This^^ Sad deal

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              #36
              Originally posted by Horitexan View Post
              It deeply saddens me that this is happening. This is one more example of spoiled brats neglecting and destroying a legacy that they inherited while sitting on their fat *****e$ and didn't deserve. And then selling it to a guy like Kroenke - a guy who is as selfish as it gets! Yet another example of greed exceeding honor and a dark blot on Texas tradition.

              Everyone involved in this deal should be ashamed! My grandad, who was the GM for many years, and my dad who was raised on the ranch must be rolling in their graves; along with Paul, Guy & Electra Waggoner who created this arrangement.

              This is such a tiny portion of the property that it's tantamount to most ranches having a tortoise living in a hundred foot pen not being willing to leave it alone. At the very least, the families should have been given a lease (by one of the parties) that ends when the last member of each family, that's currently living there, passes away. Comparing this to a hunting lease or somebody you know's ranch is ridiculous - you could fit every lease and every ranch on this forum inside the Waggoner and still have a gigantic ranch. It would have had ZERO effect on Kroenke (as it had on the Waggoners for the past 90+) to make a fair arrangement for these people. Those who say that these people were stupid to build there have obviously never had experience with these giant ranches - it was (and still is) a very common practice for these big ranches to do this for workers' families. The sad fact is that you can't trust your kids or grandkids to uphold your promises or the values that built the legacy they get handed! The King and many other ranches do the same thing. These people got jacked by some rich people for no valid reason. I'm so sick of people justifying bad behavior because "it's legal!" Just because something is legal doesn't always make it right! This is one of those situations good people who built and maintained that ranch were backhanded by the law.






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              Yep

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                #37
                could be a liability issue.

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                  #38
                  So if I lease to someone when can I evict them without feeling bad and losing my integrity? 2 years, 5 years, 20 years, 50 years whats the magic number?

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Horitexan View Post
                    It deeply saddens me that this is happening. This is one more example of spoiled brats neglecting and destroying a legacy that they inherited while sitting on their fat *****e$ and didn't deserve. And then selling it to a guy like Kroenke - a guy who is as selfish as it gets! Yet another example of greed exceeding honor and a dark blot on Texas tradition.

                    Everyone involved in this deal should be ashamed! My grandad, who was the GM for many years, and my dad who was raised on the ranch must be rolling in their graves; along with Paul, Guy & Electra Waggoner who created this arrangement.

                    This is such a tiny portion of the property that it's tantamount to most ranches having a tortoise living in a hundred foot pen not being willing to leave it alone. At the very least, the families should have been given a lease (by one of the parties) that ends when the last member of each family, that's currently living there, passes away. Comparing this to a hunting lease or somebody you know's ranch is ridiculous - you could fit every lease and every ranch on this forum inside the Waggoner and still have a gigantic ranch. It would have had ZERO effect on Kroenke (as it had on the Waggoners for the past 90+) to make a fair arrangement for these people. Those who say that these people were stupid to build there have obviously never had experience with these giant ranches - it was (and still is) a very common practice for these big ranches to do this for workers' families. The sad fact is that you can't trust your kids or grandkids to uphold your promises or the values that built the legacy they get handed! The King and many other ranches do the same thing. These people got jacked by some rich people for no valid reason. I'm so sick of people justifying bad behavior because "it's legal!" Just because something is legal doesn't always make it right! This is one of those situations good people who built and maintained that ranch were backhanded by the law.






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                    I would say he knows a little on the inside about this!

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                      #40
                      The new owner has 750,000,000 reasons to do as he wishes with the property. Bummer for the current residents but it shouldn't come as a surprise.

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                        #41
                        If I bought it I wouldn't want squatter's on my landeithrt

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                          #42
                          I know a guy in a similar situation. He leases for $2/year on a 100 year contract. His family built on said lease. Contact expires in 3 years and the owner's heirs do not want to renew. My "buddy" has taken no steps to find another place to live, nor have his siblings. He knows that the contract will not get renewed, he says it's his land and he will move when he gets carried out.
                          These residents knew the land was not their's. Knew that something like this might happen, but they thought it wouldn't. Now they are stuck with no alternative. Maybe the Original Waggoner's would never boot them, but eventually someone would.
                          Sucks all the way around

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                            #43
                            Originally posted by Killer View Post
                            I would say he knows a little on the inside about this!
                            And he's still wrong!

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                              #44
                              Feel bad for them but it was their decision to build and pour money into someone else's property. If they weren't deeded by original owners they should have been prepared when it went up for sale.


                              I wouldn't want them on my place either whether it cost me $75 or $750mil

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                                #45
                                Originally posted by Killer View Post
                                I would say he knows a little on the inside about this!
                                And his judgement is clouded by being on the inside.

                                The former owner had the chance to do what he considered "the right thing". They didn't and the new owner can't be held responsible for that. The man owns the property now and it seems he is being more than fair IMO

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