CHL class too easy??

[Clark]

Wheel guns are not less complicated and they are much more difficult to reload under stress

Revolvers have their shortcomings, but neither of what you claim is correct.
Especially in the context of the conversation...which was women who couldn't operate a semi in any environment.

If you struggle with the hand strength to operate a semi or are uncomfortable with the complexity, a wheel gun is just a better choice. And that would apply to a lot of women, imo.

[Pilgrim]

The point of the second amendment was for the people to protect themselves from a tyrant government. PERIOD.

As were the other 9 in the Bill of Rights, I don't know why this is so hard for people to understand.

[Kodiakk]

if memory serves me correctly there were no semi auto pistols or revolvers in 1776,, and they were all single shot muzzle loaders,,,, they grew up using their tools and really new how to use them,,, what you said is a lame excuse for incompetence ,, some people just never will have a clue about reality, i hope you will survive it.... the acceptance of horrific abilities is why the country is sinking now, we have learned to accept anything,, including people carrying guns that can not load or safely use them,,,, i pray that none of my family gets killed by good intentions,

Interesting, that's one of the exact arguments the libs us on a regular basis. Again, where are all the stories of CHL holders mowing down the crowds?!?!?! When it comes to the Constitution I honestly don't care if your a officer or a instructor. I don't see where it matters. My brother is also a officer, teaches at the academy and qualifies his department for over 20 years and feels the exact opposite of of you.

No wonder our rights have dwindled with as many here willing to rationalize their rights away. There's a lot of people that need to look up the definition of a right. It's a big scary world out there filled with danger, I suggest some here man the heck up or cower inside their homes.

[Tex]

It's hard for me to believe that this many people on a hunting forum feel like things should be done to make it harder for an individual to carry a gun.
For those that think the test should be harder where does it end? What would make you comfortable?

Let's say that I think that some people aren't good enough hunters and shouldn't be allowed to hunt. I kill 100 animals a year with my bow so I feel only people who hunt as good as I do should even be allowed to hunt. Sounds crazy doesn't it? To me it's the same argument that is being made here. This guy or gal didn't shoot as good as me so they should have less rights than I have.


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[topduarte]

This is making me nervous as I plan to get my CHL this summer.

[mmoses]

if memory serves me correctly there were no semi auto pistols or revolvers in 1776,, and they were all single shot muzzle loaders,,,, they grew up using their tools and really new how to use them,,, what you said is a lame excuse for incompetence ,, some people just never will have a clue about reality, i hope you will survive it.... the acceptance of horrific abilities is why the country is sinking now, we have learned to accept anything,, including people carrying guns that can not load or safely use them,,,, i pray that none of my family gets killed by good intentions,

I pray that too. But my fear(which really isnt there) of a chl holder shooting my wife or kids is way way way lower than my fear of getting robbed at the McDonald's 1/2 a mile away.

No one knows how they will preform if their life is in danger unless you have been there. Regardless of training.

Btw I have seen a few cops qualify....a little scary but I dont need to tell you that. You have been an instructor so you have seen it yourself. Im sure you have taken away a few guns and badges.

[Kevin]

Could someone explain how a proficiency test would prevent someone that should have a CHL from obtaining one. I don't see how that contradicts the constitution. I'm not trolling, I want someone to answer logically without getting all "'Merica!" on the topic. If being a felon is a "reasonable" excuse for not being able to even own a weapon, then why is not being able to safely operate a firearm unreasonable?


Open carry already screwed me up because within weeks of it passing, the company I work for decided to put up not only legal 30-06 and 30-07 signs, but also updated the employee handbook to explicitly forbid any firearms in the building. Until open carry crap, it wasn't even on anyone's radar. For those up in arms about a **** qualifier, put that in your pipe and smoke it.

[Lungbustr]

I definitely side with the Constitution on this one. Even having a license or a test is ridiculous.

[lonestarag]

The course and testing are so easy its a shame we have to pay so much for the "privilege."

[fishingsetx]

The problem is, there are way too many people wanting to pass or change laws over their "fear" of something happening. Same BS that was used as arguments against open carry. How many times has a bystander been shot by a chl/ltc holder in a SD situation?

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[xman59]

Police are 6 times more likely to commit misdemeanor and felony crimes than CHL holders. See here
and here.

like I said back up your claim not change the subject,, you said shot! back it up, not crime in general

[xman59]

I pray that too. But my fear(which really isnt there) of a chl holder shooting my wife or kids is way way way lower than my fear of getting robbed at the McDonald's 1/2 a mile away.

No one knows how they will preform if their life is in danger unless you have been there. Regardless of training.

Btw I have seen a few cops qualify....a little scary but I dont need to tell you that. You have been an instructor so you have seen it yourself. Im sure you have taken away a few guns and badges.

never any badges, failed a few and took a couple weapons,, and it is true some cops are terrible shots,,,, but not the majority, most are pretty good,, some are very ,very good,,,,, odd that some are ok with dangerous people carrying guns but not happy when the cops are less than perfect,,, no reason a citizen carrying a gun should not have to prove themselves at least safe with it,,, some want to jump down my throat because I think if your going to carry you should be capable of hitting the target,,, I have been to plenty of shootings were the intended target was not who was hit,,, but hey according to some that does not matter what you hit,, they darn well have a right to carry and shoot ,,,, that is a problem for everyone

[JW]

Could someone explain how a proficiency test would prevent someone that should have a CHL from obtaining one. I don't see how that contradicts the constitution. I'm not trolling, I want someone to answer logically without getting all "'Merica!" on the topic. If being a felon is a "reasonable" excuse for not being able to even own a weapon, then why is not being able to safely operate a firearm unreasonable?


Open carry already screwed me up because within weeks of it passing, the company I work for decided to put up not only legal 30-06 and 30-07 signs, but also updated the employee handbook to explicitly forbid any firearms in the building. Until open carry crap, it wasn't even on anyone's radar. For those up in arms about a **** qualifier, put that in your pipe and smoke it.

I can answer it simply and shortly.

2nd Amendment. Done. [emoji12]

[Kmiles84]

When wife and I had taken our renewal there was a guy in our class that had never handled a gun before. It slowed the rest of the class down while the instructor helped the newbie along.

[35remington]

Driving is not a right guaranteed by the Constitution. By your comparison you are reducing a right to a privilege granted by the government.

I think you are confused about who brought up the subject of driver's licenses. It wasn't me. I was just responding to that guy.

like I said back up your claim not change the subject,, you said shot! back it up, not crime in general

Easy, tiger. I was not the one who said you're more likely to be shot by a cop. That was someone else.