One thing a lot of people forget is that a working ranch is 365 days a year. Ranch work never stops. Hunting season is a short few months. Sometimes ranch work and hunting overlap. That's the way it is and any rancher will tell you flat out that his ranching business comes first. Will he put cows and sheep into your pasture? You bet he will. Most ranchers like the get their animals fed for free. You gotta deal with it.
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I am willing to bet that a sizable percentage of landowners let family hunt when the lease hunters are not around, no matter what the contract says. I was on a lease west of Cross Plains - 4 of us on about 750 acres. In the second year we started seeing subtle evidence that our stands were being hunted when we were not there. The evidence went from subtle to blatant when we found two fresh gut piles on the same day - someone had tried to hide them in the brush. We told the landowner and he blamed it on poachers. This was the early days of trail cams - the kind with film - so we put a few out. First time we checked them there were pics of the landowner's high school age nephews wearing camo, on 4 wheelers with rifles. We once again confronted the landowner and he bowed up and said his family could hunt his land whenever they wanted. About a month later I went out and someone had trashed our trailers - ripped the doors off, broke windows, etc and there were cans and bottles everywhere - looked like kids had a party. Of course the landowner denied his nephews would do such a thing - we loaded up everything and left the next weekend. .Last edited by jerp; 02-03-2016, 09:54 AM.
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Originally posted by muzzlebrake View PostOne thing a lot of people forget is that a working ranch is 365 days a year. Ranch work never stops. Hunting season is a short few months. Sometimes ranch work and hunting overlap. That's the way it is and any rancher will tell you flat out that his ranching business comes first. Will he put cows and sheep into your pasture? You bet he will. Most ranchers like the get their animals fed for free. You gotta deal with it.
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Originally posted by jerp View PostI am willing to bet that a sizable percentage of landowners let family hunt when the lease hunters are not around, no matter what the contract says. I was on a lease west of Cross Plains - 4 of us on about 750 acres. In the second year we started seeing subtle evidence that our stands were being hunted when we were not there. The evidence went from subtle to blatant when we found two fresh gut piles on the same day - someone had tried to hide them in the brush. We told the landowner and he blamed it on poachers. This was the early days of trail cams - the kind with film - so we put a few out. First time we checked them there were pics of the landowner's high school age nephews wearing camo, on 4 wheelers with rifles. We once again confronted the landowner and he bowed up and said his family could hunt his land whenever they wanted. About a month later I went out and someone had trashed our trailers - ripped the doors off, broke windows, etc and there were cans and bottles everywhere - looked like kids had a party. Of course the landowner denied his nephews would do such a thing - we loaded up everything and left the next weekend. .
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I hunt my grandma's land for mule deer up in the panhandle. She flat out refuses to get up at 4:00 a.m. to make me breakfast and coffee!! I think I'm gonna have to get off next year unless she changes her mind! Yeah, I have a shot at a big mulie for free, but a man has to put his foot down!!Last edited by Tx.Fisher; 02-03-2016, 10:12 AM.
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Originally posted by Backwoods101 View PostLmao!!!
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As much as we'd all like to think that all ranchers/farmers are good honest people, most seem to only Be concerned with money. Contracts do not mean crap to them, and they could care less about hunters once money has changed hands. Had a bad experience myself with a lease we had in Mason, still want to knock that landowners teeth out. He was about as sorry as they come......
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"Contracts do not mean crap to them, and they could care less about hunters once money has changed hands."
Landowners know they can break their side of the contract and there is very little chance of legal consequence. When hunters get hosed they get really mad and may threaten to sue, but how often do they go through with it? It may be different with a big corporate lease but 99% of the time the hunters just decide to leave and cut their losses.
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Originally posted by Roscoe View PostI'm still trying to figure out why "3 (THREE) Hispanics" was a detail of significance. Would it have been ok if the weren't "Hispanics" or if there was only 1 or 2 of them? LolOriginally posted by Bowhuntamistad View PostStill not sure why their race matters....because other races aren't capable of these actions???
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Originally posted by Tx.Fisher View PostI hunt my grandma's land for mule deer up in the panhandle. She flat out refuses to get up at 4:00 a.m. to make me breakfast and coffee!! I think I'm gonna have to get off next year unless she changes her mind! Yeah, I have a shot at a big mulie for free, but a man has to put his foot down!!
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Our current landowners in Llano think that mid-November through the end of the year is the ideal time to have a guy on a bulldozer "clearing brush". If it wasn't such a great lease at a cheap price I'd tell him to go eat rocks. But we've killed a 153" and a 147" in the two years we've been in the place. So I'll keep my mouth shut.
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