There was this guy once that owned a place that I needed to do what I wanted to do but he made me pay and then made rules and acted like he owned the place.
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This was a company lease but a hard lesson none the less.
We leased 2,500 acres in Mason a few years ago for $40,000.00 a year.
It was a great place to take our customers so we had the owner sign a 10 year lease.
This lease was expected to be binding on his family even after his death.
We spent $250,000.00 on a house, well, tower blinds and a road system.
The next year we sent him the $40,000.00 in March .
He died in April.
We then found out that the old fellow we were dealing with was not the actual owner of the land. He had "care and control of it " until his death then it passed to his first wifes family.
Not only did they not want to lease it, no one knew what had become of the $40,000.00 we had sent them the month before.
End the end we spent several thousand more dollars moving the house, stands and concreting in the well and cutting down a mile of power poles.
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Originally posted by systemnt View PostThere was this guy once that owned a place that I needed to do what I wanted to do but he made me pay and then made rules and acted like he owned the place.
Sounds like a buddy of mine, one day we were out riding around in his pick up and he said "One of the days I'm going to think of something" then there was the long pause and then he said "And when I do then I'm goin tell somebody". I said "What the **** does that mean" are you some kind of philosopher or something. He is actually a tractor mechanic.Last edited by Ungawa; 02-03-2016, 08:42 AM.
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Originally posted by Buff View PostThis was a company lease but a hard lesson none the less.
We leased 2,500 acres in Mason a few years ago for $40,000.00 a year.
It was a great place to take our customers so we had the owner sign a 10 year lease.
This lease was expected to be binding on his family even after his death.
We spent $250,000.00 on a house, well, tower blinds and a road system.
The next year we sent him the $40,000.00 in March .
He died in April.
We then found out that the old fellow we were dealing with was not the actual owner of the land. He had "care and control of it " until his death then it passed to his first wifes family.
Not only did they not want to lease it, no one knew what had become of the $40,000.00 we had sent them the month before.
End the end we spent several thousand more dollars moving the house, stands and concreting in the well and cutting down a mile of power poles.
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Originally posted by Roscoe View PostI'm still trying to figure out why "3 (THREE) Hispanics" was a detail of significance. Would it have been ok if the weren't "Hispanics" or if there was only 1 or 2 of them? Lol
The third year he leased the property to 3 Hispanics for rifle season. We had 22 TWENTY TWO, that's 19 NINETEEN more (Hispanic) people than he had leased the property to show up during Oct when we were trying to hunt. We found bullet casings under our deer stands where they were GUN hunting during Oct. One night at 2 am 6 of them showed up drunk and told us to leave the cabin that they had the place leased.
And to make all of this even more frustrating most of these people spoke very little English which made a bad situation worse and even more irritating when attempting to deal with them.
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Originally posted by Buff View PostThis was a company lease but a hard lesson none the less.
We leased 2,500 acres in Mason a few years ago for $40,000.00 a year.
It was a great place to take our customers so we had the owner sign a 10 year lease.
This lease was expected to be binding on his family even after his death.
We spent $250,000.00 on a house, well, tower blinds and a road system.
The next year we sent him the $40,000.00 in March .
He died in April.
We then found out that the old fellow we were dealing with was not the actual owner of the land. He had "care and control of it " until his death then it passed to his first wifes family.
Not only did they not want to lease it, no one knew what had become of the $40,000.00 we had sent them the month before.
End the end we spent several thousand more dollars moving the house, stands and concreting in the well and cutting down a mile of power poles.
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Originally posted by Ungawa View PostWhat the ****?
Sounds like a buddy of mine, one day we were out riding around in his pick up and he said "One of the days I'm going to think of something" then there was the long pause and then he said "And when I do then I'm goin tell somebody". I said "What the **** does that mean" are you some kind of philosopher or something. He is actually a tractor mechanic.
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Originally posted by M.E.B. View PostHe leased the property to 3 of us for two years for bow season, Oct. No one leased the property for gun season those first two years.
The third year he leased the property to 3 Hispanics for rifle season. We had 22 TWENTY TWO, that's 19 NINETEEN more (Hispanic) people than he had leased the property to show up during Oct when we were trying to hunt. We found bullet casings under our deer stands where they were GUN hunting during Oct. One night at 2 am 6 of them showed up drunk and told us to leave the cabin that they had the place leased.
And to make all of this even more frustrating most of these people spoke very little English which made a bad situation worse and even more irritating when attempting to deal with them.
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cattle lease up north... owners son stole 30 heifers...he got arrested for bar fight and let go before the realized it was him... Was in the truck with 2 friends when they were pulled over for speeding... high speed chase ended in them killed in shoot out. We never saw the cattle or the money from it... horrible deal
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Originally posted by Bowhuntamistad View PostStill not sure why their race matters....because other races aren't capable of these actions???
Did you get the point that we had to deal with drunks at 2 am that we could not even speak their language? It is hard enough to deal with a drunk. It is hard enough to deal with people that are mad because they sub leased from one of the original three and we are not going to leave the camp house or allow them to hunt.
But when you are dealing with drunk and or really mad people and you cannot speak the language it makes it worse. Understand?
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Originally posted by M.E.B. View PostSure all of the WHITE ranchers where the ones that screwed us over.
Did you get the point that we had to deal with drunks at 2 am that we could not even speak their language? It is hard enough to deal with a drunk. It is hard enough to deal with people that are mad because they sub leased from one of the original three and we are not going to leave the camp house or allow them to hunt.
But when you are dealing with drunk and or really mad people and you cannot speak the language it makes it worse. Understand?
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I feel pretty much, the landowners dont want us there, they just want our money. . .They dont want us to be there, they dont want us to kill anything and NO MATTER WHAT dont mess with their **** cows. They think is funny when their livestock tears up feeders, stands, etc. . .yep, been burnt way too many times!
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Originally posted by Ungawa View PostWhat the ****?
Sounds like a buddy of mine, one day we were out riding around in his pick up and he said "One of the days I'm going to think of something" then there was the long pause and then he said "And when I do then I'm goin tell somebody". I said "What the **** does that mean" are you some kind of philosopher or something. He is actually a tractor mechanic.
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