Bad landowner thread

[Fightinaggies]

the landowner loses his rights to his land when he leases the land unless there is reason or emergency or leasee consent to enter the property. Its like renting a house. the owner cant just barge in with his key if the tenant is doing nothing wrong. If something needs to be done with the property, the leasee needs to be contacted before entering the property or the contract needs to be terminated.

ummmmmm no. lol that's not how it works

[HeyMikey]

You're liable to bring bad landowner karma on yourself, for starting this thread

[Evolver]

There are definitely some legitimate grievances here, but there are obviously also some grievous misunderstandings of what "rights" are being secured with a hunting lease. It is almost nothing like a residential lease unless you manage to negotiate one hell of a contract. Hunting, grazing, wind, subsurface, etc. rights are all categories subject to lease agreements. I've never seen any of those that dictate that the owner may not access the property without permission of the lease holder. Nor have I ever seen a lease that encompassed all of those rights or said that the hunting lease trumped all other rights.

If you wanted sole access to and control of my property, you'd have to pay for all of those potential categories of income and usage cumulatively. In that case, your annual cost per acre is going to be measured in $100 bills not $10 bills.

[Jeff_S]

I hunt public land. I refuse to get a lease due to landowner BS. They love the money but they hate to be inconvenienced by deer season. I know they own the land, but they accept money and often sign a contract. It's very simple. If they don't want people on their land than don't lease it. If you want the money than learn to cooperate. Last lease I was on the owner wanted half the money by March. We paid him half with a check. By summer we had been feeding protein and corn for months. He never cashed the checks. One day late in the summer he approached one lease member and said he needs more money. He said whatever we agreed upon would be good. We all agreed a couple hundred more per person would work although that was a sketchy thing to do after we agreed on a price in March. Well he said that wasn't enough and gave us our checks back and told us to remove our stuff. Turns out he had a group that offered him a lot more than what we paid. He thought about it for several months until the lure of more money was too much to resist. I swore I would never get on another lease. I would rather save my money for more saltwater fishing than deal with more landowners. The overwhelming thought seems to be that they're doing us a favor. They forget that our money pays their taxes.

[Jeff_S]

Also in two comments I saw people refer to payment as "small amount of money to hunt" It often isn't a small amount especially when multiplied by all the hunters.. My dad was on a lease for 20 years. He got off a couple years ago They never shot a deer over 135 inches. The place was 1200 acres and he received almost $29,000 from hunters on just that one property.

[Sparkles]

Wayne Olive
Fannin/Hunt county line between Ladonia and Wolfe City
He's a liar and thief, wants to work on a hand shake and turns out he doesn't own any land

[Efren]

We leased 100 acres from, who we thought, was a friend of ours. He purchased the property and told us me and my bud were going to be the only ones there hunting besides himself. We cleared land and put up feeders months before deer season. And we never saw the owner there. He did work on the property, but usually during the week. A couple of weeks before the season opened he laid a foundation to build a cabin. Opening day as we sat in our blinds waiting for the sun to come up, we hear him drive into the property and crank up his generator. He spent all day working with loud power tools. After we confronted him, he say to just give him a call a few days beore we came out so he would not come on that week. WELL, he would do the opposite thing. He would show up every time we told him we'd be there with at l sat a good weeks notice. Then, he started putting coon traps on our feeders leaving the critters there to starve and scare away the game. Yet, there was non on his feeder. Then one weekend we had two trucks pull in. We left our blinds to see who they were and they said they were friends with the owner and said they could hunt there for free! What a waste of hard earned money and time.

[psicoo]

Over 30yrs, same club hunting on the same lease. Zero issues with landowner, a wonderful spiritual man! He'll relocate blinds and feeders, clear shooting lanes, grade roads etc., and try's to refuse compensation. We have to force him to take it. Just a great guy and family!

[Je3749]

I hunt my grandma's land for mule deer up in the panhandle. She flat out refuses to get up at 4:00 a.m. to make me breakfast and coffee!! I think I'm gonna have to get off next year unless she changes her mind! Yeah, I have a shot at a big mulie for free, but a man has to put his foot down!!

sounds like my kind of lease, heck I dont drink coffee and can skip breakfast. Let me know if you have an open spot!

[Encinal]

The list of Leasee horror stories is just as long or longer.

Use references whenever possible. Get your contract written up and signed.

Operate within the rules.

Hunting is a great income stream for a landowner, but people on a hunting lease have to realize that there are usually other forms of income making activity going on at the same time. Cattle raising, farming, wind, timber, water and mineral development all have potential to disrupt hunting activities on the property.

Your lease rights do not supercede these rights unless specifically stated in a contract.

In the case of mineral development, the landowner may not even have the ABILITY to negotiate with a drilling company when and where wells will be drilled. Over many tracts of land in the state minerals have been completely severed from the surface.