Lease size discrepancy

[Russ]

Thanks for the info. The CAD maps are pretty straight forward and by my calculations we are about 20% short of what is listed in the lease.

Kind of a slippery slope how to address it. Not really wanting to **** off landowner or lease representative/agent and get kicked off.

I am the type of guy that will say something just for the simple fact that I can't just let people get away with this kind of stuff

[Bisch]

If you were happy with what you have before you found out, and happy with the landowner, then it really should not make any difference. If you are unhappy and looking for an out, then it could make a big difference.

Bisch

[flywise]

If you were happy with what you have before you found out, and happy with the landowner, then it really should not make any difference. If you are unhappy and looking for an out, then it could make a big difference.

Bisch

Agreed Bisch
If the money is right and it feels like it could be a good long term place im not sure id care much....... Unless it was half of advertised

[EastTx]

You leasing from Sippy?

[Russ]

I guess it depends on if you are paying by the acre. Then it would be no different than a cab driver charging you for more miles than traveled. I have been on places before that this has happened. Wasn't too happy about it either.

[txtrophy85]

Property could have two different ID numbers or be in different abstracts and you only pulled one. Not uncommon at all

I sold a ranch in dec. that had 202 acres in one abstract and 8 acres in another. Both parcels had two different ID numbers and taxed separately

[mudbone]

What would you call an acceptable amount that a lease could be off +/- on acreage? A lease I'm on, our contract states one amount but when I pulled the appraisal district map, the land is smaller than what is actually stated in the contract. I guess this is covered in the lease +/- or approx. verbiage?

I got hosed by some people on the green screen for stating that a land owner should know how much land they are wanting to lease. Not give and estimate of acreage and the estimate is always much more than there really is, especially if you are a hunter!!!!!!

[super_dave]

Bout like a flowmeter. +/- 5%

[Tx.Fisher]

You might be looking for a new lease if you bring it up to be owner, so tread lightly. I think this type of stuff happens more than we think.

[RogueSamurai]

If you aren't used to reading appraisal district maps or researching properties on an appraisal district then it could be deceiving. Just looking up the address may not be the entire property if it's split up--I see this a lot at the bank.

This. Some a lot of Appraisal District and CAD maps can be off by quite a lot, or the property may be split up among more than one "owner". It's a total pain in the Arse when you are a Landman.

You would have to find the deed and see what it says and then run it forward to know if anything has changed.

Also, if it has a creek/river as a boundary the acreage can change because it may follow the "meanders of the creek" etc.

OR you could just have a landowner that is a bit overly proud of his land and likes to stretch the truth....I've seen that more than once.
One of the reasons I wish Texas had more Section/Township/Range than it does. It makes it so much easier.

[Doc Peter]

We were on a lease once (paper company) where the lessee sublet to us. He was telling hunters there was 5,000 Ac. when there was actually less than 3500. Also he was not issuing out the doe permits to the hunters that he was provided. And he was kicking out hunters that were killing any hog that had a tail; supposedly he was trapping hogs and clipping tails on the feral hogs.

When all of this was finally brought to the paper company after about 5 years they revoked his lease and sued him, and won. The paper company sent their biologist back in and he parceled the land into individual clubs and set rules. The first year no bucks but something like 52 doe permits. Second year two bucks per club with 12" inside spread and a lot more doe permits. I like eating doe. I tagged out with does both years.

[Big pig]

If you aren't used to reading appraisal district maps or researching properties on an appraisal district then it could be deceiving. Just looking up the address may not be the entire property if it's split up--I see this a lot at the bank.

My first reaction also.
Why the question? How do you know the true size?

BP

[Big pig]

If you aren't used to reading appraisal district maps or researching properties on an appraisal district then it could be deceiving. Just looking up the address may not be the entire property if it's split up--I see this a lot at the bank.

As a Landman, My first reaction also. Full title might be required.
Why the question? How do you know the true size?
Happened to us many years ago paying by the acre. Landowner was a liar and a general sob. I moved on after a couple years and regretted the time and money I wasted there.

BP

[Tmag]

Are you happy with the lease?

Are you happy with the cost of the lease?

Are you happy with the deer and animals you are taking off the lease?

If you are, you may want to hunt and enjoy what you have.

If you aren't then by all means call the land owner out and see where it leads.

You might want to go ahead and start a new lease search if you choose option 2.


For the record, our lease at the river was considerably less than what we were told but we loved the place and were satisfied with our deal. Great leases for the right money are hard to find these days.

[Bear82]

I had the same issue leasing in Evant and also heard other people had issues on the ranch. A realtor friend of landowner was leasing it to people.