Carseats after a wreck???

[WCB]

Modern seatbelts have pretensioners that pull the belts tight and lock them down. The seatbelts will be replaced at the bodyshop.

I've had a couple of good wrecks and have never had seat belts replace. Unless they put everything else except seat belts on the invoice...

[Brooks]

I've had a couple of good wrecks and have never had seat belts replace. Unless they put everything else except seat belts on the invoice...

how old was the car?

[flywise]

[quote=flywise;9177022]i dont believe it is taking any sort of chance or putting kids at any risk.There is nothing wrong with those seats.
thats an answer to a question

Look, I ain't wrong and of course the manufacturer say to buy a new one.
I don't care if people want to buy new seats if that makes them feel better but the seats are not ruined just because the vehicle is.
Now if the seats we're occupied at the time of the accident I'd be all for getting new ones. But if no load was applied and no physical damage is seen......it's fine

is that not an answer or at least a differing opinion?

Well,
I'm a fireman, i have seen hundreds of car seats in cars that have been in accidents. We actually pull car seats out of cars that have been in very bad accidents to use in the transport of kids that were in those seats.
I can see pretty good with my glasses on so i actually look at these car seats before i place a kid back in them for transport.I'm fairly intelligent and ive been around for 45 years so i know that some claims made by manufacturers are made simply to keep them out of liability litigation. Their advice to remove the car seat after an accident is no different than the warning not to cook your frozen pizza while it is still in the plastic wrapper. If something is damaged it is damaged, if it is not then it is not.
Please, buy a car seat everytime you feel it is Necessary. It might take that for some to have peace of mind but it is not necessary for ME and that does not make me a bad parent

so, the fear here is ( i'm assuming ) that in the next accident the seat could completely come apart, straps break or what?
did anyone answer this?

The only thing on a car seat that provides the safety is the straps, nylon straps that have not been loaded (accident with a child in the seat) cant possibly be damaged in an accident.

Just my opinion, is that not allowed?

Take a close look at a car seat, the vehicle seatbelt runs through the back or bottom of the seat. in either case if the seat does break (which even if slightly damaged in a previous accident is highly unlikely) in the next accident the child is still going to be restrained.

I believe this is completely true^^^

[quote=flywise;9178921]I have eyeballs and i can see cracks in plastic, or torn straps.
Another answer to the same question

if you have an accident and your kid (say 13 years old) is in the [/B]passenger seat. Your car meats the criteria for a moderate accident with air bag deployment. say your car is fixed and not totaled. you now going to be driving your kid around in a car with a seat belt that HAS been loaded.
By the logic i am seeing, everytime a driver slams on the break and the seat belt activates, they all need to be replaced.......just in case.

And im no engineer but i going to go out on a limb and say that a loaded seatbelt of any magnitude is worse than a car seat that has never been loaded.

nurse

jenn;9180768]If by "the nurse" you're referring to me (im unsure because i actually have a name and thats not it), that's a little disrespectful

Addressing you by your implied profession is disrespectful?

to refer to someone in that way... but anyway, my point was that you won't answer a simple question so let me spell it out... MOST of the time it won't fail, fine... but fact is, you can't see everything and "most of the time" does not equal "never" so the question why take the risk is a valid one that you've never answered. All you've said is that if you can't see anything wrong with your own eyeballs, there's no risk. We can agree to disagree on whether or not there is risk but let's just say for snickers and giggles, that no method of inspection with the naked eye is perfect and it won't catch every small defect or flaw... why take the risk?

I believe i have answered your question many times and also said that what ever makes a person feel at ease by al means. I also believe i have made some very logical points expressed in MY opinions although it seems they may not have been throughly understood.

So, please understand...a debate is about people with opinions trying to convince other people with differing opinions that theirs is the better one.
I aint doing any good convincing you mine is better and you certainly aint going to convince me that something is broke when there is no evidence it is

[SM-Houston]

But what about the pizza?!

[flywise]

This thread has gone astray! Why would you deter anyone from replacing a safety item??? Especially when his insurance co will buy him new seats???

Flywise, I guess when you department goes to replace your bunker gear after 10 years of service, according to NFPA 1971, you say " Mine looks fine, I think I will keep it" how does that go down with your chief? We are in the life safety business, lets not deter people from making the SAFEST choice!

I have no choice in whether my bunker gear is replaced even though i have had stuff replaced that was still nearly new and that makes no since

And before you go on thinking i am trying to "deter people from replacing a safety product read my responses. I would never deter anyone from replacing a car seat. All i have done is simply express my opinion that I do not believe an empty car seat can be damaged in an accident if there is no physical damage apparent to the actual seat

[WCB]

how old was the car?

5 yrs?? Is there a limit?? Hunting safety harness are said to be replaced every 5 years. Should I have my 10yr old truck seat belts replaced? They sit in the sun 24/7 during 10 Texas summers. 130/150 deg??

None of y'all told me to replace them. What, y'all love your kids more than me??

[flywise]

Modern seatbelts have pretensioners that pull the belts tight and lock them down. The seatbelts will be replaced at the bodyshop.

Are they replaced if in a minor accident?
Are they replaced if no one was in that seat a the time of the accident?
I'm guessing ....No..Why would i have this opinion? Well, if the seat was unoccupied and the belt did not take a loading force and there is no visible damage then it simply could not have been damaged.
Same point i have been trying to make about the car seat.

[flywise]

5 yrs?? Is there a limit?? Hunting safety harness are said to be replaced every 5 years. Should I have my 10yr old truck seat belts replaced? They sit in the sun 24/7 during 10 Texas summers. 130/150 deg??

None of y'all told me to replace them. What, y'all love your kids more than me??

your the best...... now go buy some belts

[Brooks]

5 yrs?? Is there a limit?? Hunting safety harness are said to be replaced every 5 years. Should I have my 10yr old truck seat belts replaced? They sit in the sun 24/7 during 10 Texas summers. 130/150 deg??

None of y'all told me to replace them. What, y'all love your kids more than me??

Lets just say this, I can tell if you had your seatbelt on or not after a collision. All the seatbelts are locked in place so if its pulled out I know you had it on.

[super_dave]

You people have forgot your raising! If I could "legally" buckle my kids in with a seat belt I would and when we run out of belts.... That's right... Like we did as kids, someone's going in the floorboard when we see a cop.

By some accident, my kids are tiny and at the rate their growing they will have a card eat or booster until their 14.

Flywise, I'm with you here man. If the kid wasn't in the seat, there was no strain on the belts and the seat is gonna be fine. But I do understand the worry some have. I just don't.

I pull harder on the car seats when I put them in making sure they're secure that they'd get jarred in a minor collision

[Brooks]

You people have forgot your raising! If I could "legally" buckle my kids in with a seat belt I would and when we run out of belts.... That's right... Like we did as kids, someone's going in the floorboard when we see a cop.

By some accident, my kids are tiny and at the rate their growing they will have a card eat or booster until their 14.

Flywise, I'm with you here man. If the kid wasn't in the seat, there was no strain on the belts and the seat is gonna be fine. But I do understand the worry some have. I just don't.

I pull harder on the car seats when I put them in making sure they're secure that they'd get jarred in a minor collision

No way that's even possible

No one said anything about a minor collision. The OP was in a major and the seats were unoccupied.

[texasdeerhunter]

I've got a two year old. This warning sounds like a ploy to get people to buy more car seats after an accident. I've read all the posts, there are arguments on both sides with merit, but a fender bender should not change the structural integrity of car seats or seat belts.

[JBT]

Things we can all agree on :

1.) everyone loves their children and does their best to keep them safe

2.) good idea to check and replace car seats in a major accident (structural damage to car, air bags deploy, ect.)

3.) remove plastic from pizza before inserting into oven

[randal]

I already told you. You cook your pizza in the plastic. I cannot trust your judgement.

This could be a game changer.. That plastic kill brain cells....

[WCB]

Lets just say this, I can tell if you had your seatbelt on or not after a collision. All the seatbelts are locked in place so if its pulled out I know you had it on.

So in a major collision the seat belts won't work again? They're locked out? Didn't know that. Guess my wrecks were not as bad as I thought...