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    #16
    Originally posted by drop dead fred View Post
    Only thing I don't like is 1) all the flopping!!! I saw ppl being stretchered off the field for a cramp! 2) stoppage time lets extend/end the game when ever either put in timeouts or when the games over it's over. An if the balls past midfield there shouldnt be off sides
    Soccer players don't flop, they dive!

    Ok that's all I know about kickball lol

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      #17
      Originally posted by smart View Post
      you are right...you should have bit your tongue and not posted..
      bam!

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        #18
        Originally posted by rladner View Post
        Not sure why its such a hard concept for some to grasp. It is a ROUND ROBIN for the first round. Its about POINTS, not wins. Our problem with American Sports is we focus solely on the win, not the body of work. We are the only country who crowns its champions based on an end of season tournament, not on the best team that season. Hockey changed to appease US fans who couldn't understand that its about points. That's why they had to only give 2 points for a win instead of 3. No, we want a win or a loss and he who is playing best at the END of the season is our champion. Again, first stage is a round robin, the two teams with the most points move on to round 2, where you WILL have a winner every match. There are things we don't like about every sport. I HATE how American football is an hour on the clock yet it takes 3.5 hrs to play. I HATE how baseball takes so long and is slow. I HATE how hockey shifts are so short. I HATE all the timeouts in Basketball. But, I appreciate the games and can still enjoy them win/lose or draw.

        I saw this quote yesterday......

        "the only time a tie is considered favorable or a win is in a soccer or when a woman is arguing with her husband.."...



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        Last edited by Smart; 06-23-2014, 09:40 AM.

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          #19
          I'll give you that not everyone can hit a fast pitch...I for example would start my swing the second he nodded on the pitch call from the catcher...ha. and congrats to even making contact on JB...seriously cool.

          but the game is too slow for me....too boring and too long of a season. and those guys are the COCKIEST in sports...can't take it. I think if you cut the season in half or more, you'll get more fans excited. It's starting to be like college basketball...which nobody cares about until march madness...

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            #20
            Ties on points at the end of the group stage are resolved by goal difference. The US team has scored four goals and let in three so their difference is plus 1. Portugal has scored three and let in seven so their difference is -4. If the US loses to Germany 1-0 and Portugal beats Ghana 5-0 then Portugal goes through on difference because the US will be at 0 difference and Portugal at +1. Y'all can figure out the other scenarios.[/QUOTE]

            great now I have to do math to know what's going on. It's keeps getting worse and worse lol. Like I said I was getting into it just hate there was no what I would call an ending.

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              #21
              Originally posted by Smart View Post
              You are right...you should have bit your tongue and not posted..
              too late....can only take so much...

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                #22
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                Packers Tie Vikings 26-26, the 4th NFL Tie in the Last 15 Years

                By: Jason McIntyre November 24, 2013 5:34 pm ET



                Green Bay tied Minnesota, 26-26, in a wacky game that was alternatively exciting – Tolzien! Lacy! – and beyond boring (see, overtime). The women who wore bikinis to the game will remember it well: “Remember that time I got mono … it was at that game that ended in a tie!”

                Here’s an oddity: The last seven NFL ties have all happened in November. I can’t begin to explain why that is. Weather? It’s worse in December. Then again, in December, teams are in must-win mode for the playoffs, and nobody wants to settle for a tie. Although it’s not like anyone wants a tie in November, either.

                November 19, 1989 Cleveland Browns Kansas City Chiefs 10–10
                November 16, 1997 Baltimore Ravens Philadelphia Eagles 10–10
                November 23, 1997 Washington Redskins New York Giants 7–7
                November 10, 2002 Pittsburgh Steelers Atlanta Falcons 34–34
                November 16, 2008 Cincinnati Bengals Philadelphia Eagles 13–13
                November 11, 2012 San Francisco 49ers St. Louis Rams 24–24
                Last edited by AntlerCollector; 06-23-2014, 09:43 AM.

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by Shane View Post
                  At least everybody gets a participation ribbon or something though.
                  Hardly. You get 3 games to get the maximum points you can to move on. If you don't finish in the top 2, you go home with NOTHING.

                  Originally posted by rconn View Post
                  I can see where some would think baseball is boring but I'm not one of those people. There is a lot going on the whole time: ptiching, hitting , fielding and so on. But to say that aren't athlete's is crazy talk. The hardest thing to do in sports is hit a baseball. If you have never tried to hit a 90mph fast ball you should, it will change your mind. I faced Josh Becket in high school and he was throwing 95 to 98 and I could barley even see the ball much less hit it
                  (I did foul one off )
                  So you "understand" baseball. That's probably the biggest problem with "anti soccer fans". They don't "understand" all those little nuances about the game. The level at which you watch/understand baseball is the level most soccer fans watch soccer.

                  Originally posted by drop dead fred View Post
                  Only thing I don't like is 1) all the flopping!!! I saw ppl being stretchered off the field for a cramp! 2) stoppage time lets extend/end the game when ever either put in timeouts or when the games over it's over. An if the balls past midfield there shouldnt be off sides
                  That's the ONLY time there is offsides. That's how it works. If you want to score you have to be smarter/faster than the defense. Work for it, nobody is going to give it to you. As for stoppage time. Its a 90 minute game and you are going to play 90 minutes. No time outs, that's American for , "wait, I don't know what play to run so let me ask my coach", or "hey, I'm tired, can I have some water". So any time wasting gets put back on the clock. Imagine how many hours it would take to play an NFL game if they did that.

                  Originally posted by rconn View Post
                  American sports you play good all year long to get to the playoffs and then once in the playoffs the best of the best play to WIN To me who cares if you are the best at the beginning of the season, you shouldn’t win based on something you did in the past. In the words of Herm Edwards " You play to WIN the game"
                  I don't think you win a season by only being good at the beginning of the season. You need to be the best all year long. Otherwise I guess you just play the season as a "preseason" to get warmed up since it only matter how you play at the end. Forget everything you did all year long, it means nothing. The team that had a losing record and barely made the playoffs is better than you and will be crowned champs. Your 1 loss the entire season made you worthless. At least that is the American way

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by Smart View Post
                    I saw this quote yesterday......

                    "the only time a tie is considered favorable or a win is in a soccer or when a woman is arguing with her husband.."...



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                    I don't hear anyone complaining about ties then

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                      #25
                      It doesn't come to that very often.

                      As for the other poster a season champion should be the one who did best from beginning to the end, not the one who got on a hot streak in the playoffs.

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by AntlerCollector View Post
                        I believe the last NFL tie was around 2006. Americans hate tie games! That's why soccer sucks!
                        ties DO happen in the NFL, just not often

                        2013 GB and MINN tied

                        2012 SF and STL tied



                        the only time a "tie" can occur during the WC is in the round-robin group stage which we are currently watching.


                        in the FIFA World Cup, there is no OT or "golden goal" during the round-robin group tournament (US, Ghana, Germany, Portugal). 8 groups of 4 teams play to accumulate the most points. The top 2 teams (based on points) advance to the knock-out round.

                        The KO stage is single elimination and involves extra time and shoot-outs to determine the winner if tied after regulation. No ties during this stage.

                        Remember the famous Brandi Chastain goal ? US and China were tied after regulation and overtime. They went to a sudden death PK shootout which Chastain sealed the deal for the US to win the women's 1999 WC
                        Last edited by Cajun Blake; 06-23-2014, 09:58 AM.

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                          #27
                          The link would not work, but search for this article by GQ in google:

                          The Make It Stop Guide to being an a**h$$$ about soccer
                          Last edited by MLank; 06-23-2014, 09:53 AM.

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                            #28
                            I guess I should look at the bright side. A bunch of hunters are sitting here talking about soccer
                            Last edited by rladner; 06-23-2014, 10:00 AM.

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by rladner View Post
                              I guess I should look at the bright side. A bunch of hunters and sitting here talking about soccer
                              haha...good point....like get'em to church...

                              it's all good.

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by cgny27 View Post
                                I really want to reply...but I'll bite my tongue....
                                x2

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