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    Originally posted by bwb View Post
    The sad thing is there are so many who, when they get married, already see divorce as an option if things don't work out
    That's funny cuz when my wife and I got married, we both said that divorce was never an option. After 12 years, we're still good. That and we both got on the same "bible" page.

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      Originally posted by Blood Trail View Post
      That's funny cuz when my wife and I got married, we both said that divorce was never an option. After 12 years, we're still good. That and we both got on the same "bible" page.
      it's the beard dude... i have had a beard since 2005 and we just get better and better in our relationship

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        Originally posted by ram6256 View Post
        If marriage was not an option, I think there would be even more messed up kids than there are now. There are always at least 2 sides to every story, His, Hers, and everyone else's. Raising kids in a discordant house "for the kids" "it is better for the kids" "put the kids first" environment only exposes them to a most unhealthy environment.
        Going through this divorce and doing my share in raising my kids is without a doubt the hardest thing I have done. It is also one of the best things I have done for me and could have done for my kids. They now have the opportunity to truly see the differences in approach to their raising and personal values.
        Roy
        That depends. It can be looked at from both views. If divorce was not an option than more people would take a better approach to building a solid foundation for their marriage. Resulting in a happier marriage and happier healthier kids. IMHO

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          Originally posted by flashof1979 View Post
          If divorce was not an option than more people would take a better approach to building a solid foundation for their marriage.
          you put a LARGE amount of faith into humanity.


          In the absence of integrity and faith in something (God, your spouse, your kids, etc), there will ALWAYS be a propensity to take the path of least resistance.

          Now, I am not talking about what I would consider a "justified" divorce as many on here have spoken of. I am directly referring to those who we all know should have never been married in the first place.

          But I highly doubt that anything that would be changed in law would ever change the basic nature of a person.

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            Did not know that it was!!!!!

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              Originally posted by cosmiccowboy View Post
              You didn't step on my toes at all. I found some other posts mildly offensive that were judging divorced people at the gates of heaven as unworthy. MY God would find THEM unworthy.

              My wifes ex was not a bad guy, He was very charismatic but he just couldn't keep his pickle in his pants until appropriate times. For our son we included him in everything as we went forward and we are all now friends. After 4 more marriages he finally grew up and found a good person to put up with him.
              If you were offended by my post you MISSREAD It.

              I said nothing about divorced people. I said "infidelity" people. Like your wife's first husband. He will have to explain that.

              Seems like there are a few that misread my post.

              Because if my wife cheats on me I will be divorced to. And she can answer for her sins. (If that were the case)

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                They should make a marriage license harder to get than just signing a form. Its just too easy to get hitched. If both parties had to do more legwork to make it happen alot of people would back out before it happened.

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                  The Bible says
                  for by grace you're saved through faith and that not of yourself it is a gift to God not of works least any man should boast!!

                  cheating has nothing to do with heaven or hell! Only belief

                  our God is a goodmerciful God our sins are gone as far as the east is from the west once we trust him

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                    Originally posted by Free q2 View Post
                    They should make a marriage license harder to get than just signing a form. Its just too easy to get hitched. If both parties had to do more legwork to make it happen alot of people would back out before it happened.
                    Why would anyone advocate that? Then the wedding planners, dress makers, ring sellers, pastors, banquet halls, caterers, lawyers, JP's, License fees, and countless other services that benefit from the institution of marriage would lose out on their piece of the pie. It costs money to get into it and even more to get out in most cases. If you take religion out of it and just look at it objectively it is easy to see that it is a business plain and simple.

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                      Originally posted by cbd10pt View Post
                      The Bible says
                      for by grace you're saved through faith and that not of yourself it is a gift to God not of works least any man should boast!!

                      cheating has nothing to do with heaven or hell! Only belief

                      our God is a goodmerciful God our sins are gone as far as the east is from the west once we trust him
                      I struggle with this sometimes. SO, what you are saying is I can go do ANYTHING I want to. whenever I want to. without worry of consequences as long as I ask God forgiveness after its ok?

                      this is why I dont go to church. I feel that MOST that go to church for this reason (to ask forgiveness for the sinful lives they lead). BUT, continue doing so.

                      Not that I have a good answer. I just struggle with it... So all the people in prison etc... thats who I am going to be in heaven with. No matter what they have done or will still do if they were let out. because they prayed to God one night asking for forgiveness everything is ok?

                      THEN who is going to hell? I guess no one as long as they ask for forgiveness or repent?

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                        Originally posted by super_dave View Post
                        The government was NOWHERE in our marriage ceremony.
                        that marriage license you had to buy was issued by the government

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                          Marriage falls into two separate realms

                          Public: Sanctioned by Government so that the couple can receive certain economic and social benefits. It's a legal contract, hopefully designed to protect both parties financially.

                          Private or Personal: An expression of love, support, and commitment between two individuals.

                          Neither REQUIRE a religious component. I've certainly known long and happily married atheist or agnostic couples.

                          The history of marriage predates recorded history and probably got it's start when men wanted to be (mostly) sure that his own genetic code was present in children born to a woman. In return, a woman would hypothetically receive the benefit of protection for herself and her offspring.

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                            Originally posted by Lady Archer View Post
                            and just to add a little twist...

                            Unless you plan on breeding, is there any real reason to get married???

                            I say, no way!
                            I say no way too!!!

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                              Originally posted by ram04 View Post
                              I say no way too!!!
                              There is if you want to protect any wealth you built together.

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                                Originally posted by Lady Archer View Post
                                and just to add a little twist...

                                Unless you plan on breeding, is there any real reason to get married???

                                I say, no way!
                                Actually, the Air Force made me. If I wanted to haul her butt around the world and support her, we had to have that piece of paper. It's only lasted 27 years so far.

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