So, Is Lance a cheat?

[Legdog]

Lance never tested positive, ever. Therefore, he is not a cheat.

He withdrew his own blood and stored it throught the year. There was no test that could catch it initially. Virtually every cyclist associated with him verifies he elevated his own oxygen carrying capacity via the blood doping transfusions. Lance paid 7 figure money to banned doctors to assist in the storage and administration of EPO and his own blood.

Hincapie's testimony is the final nail in the doping coffin.

To another question waved by Armstrong’s defenders — how could he pass so many drug tests if he doped? — the report also offers an answer: with apparent ease. The testing net had more holes than mesh, holes seemingly plenty big enough for even the biggest fish to slip through, allegedly aided by Ferrari’s expertise and tip-offs that testers were coming.

Team staff, including director Bruyneel, “seemed to have an outstanding early warning system regarding drug tests,” Vaughters testified. “We typically seemed to have an hour’s advance notice” — plenty of time for riders to manipulate their blood with infusions of saline solution to make it look normal.

Recommend Tweet Personal Post .“Johan always seemed to know when drug testers were coming at races,” Zabriskie testified. “His warning that “they’re coming tomorrow” came on more than one occasion.”

How did Bruyneel allegedly know? Who could have tipped him off? These are among the questions cycling must answer.

its a done deal

[Chad C]

Yep

[Dirtymike]

Witch hunt solely! Never failed a test, hard to convict if you dont have a dirty test!

Test are easy to pass if you study for them.

Either way I dont shave my legs to ride a bike so I dont care one way or another. I know if your at the top people want to knock you down. I also know that some people will do anything to get to the top, such as cheat... or lie saying you cheated.

[d_e_smith]

Wonder how much money it was costing him to fight the charges. He might just be tired of spending money... JMO

those are my thoughts as well. Let them have the titles and him keep the money sounds like the best ROI.

[gadeerwoman]

Did he cheat? Noone knows for sure except he himself and the people closest to him. He's definitely the 'poster boy' for a lot of gay males out there. They love him no matter what. Maybe it has something to do with shaving those legs. He's done some good things in his life, some not so good like most folks in this world. If he is indeed guilty of cheating I would hope he owns up to it at some point and doesn't try to deny it to his dying breath like so many athletes have done. As drug tests get more and more sophisticated I think we are going to see a lot more 'exposure' of underlying drug usage in athletes.

[BIG BONE]

yes

[Legdog]

He's definitely the 'poster boy' for a lot of gay males out there.

He is?



He may be the greatest cyclist of all time but I'd be very surprised if any skinny cyclist was a poster boy for anything!

His ex-wife (for what its worth) says the code name for EPO in the house fridge was "butter" because they kept it in the same compartment as the butter. She said the EPO was a "necessary evil".

[47]

If we now know most, if not all them were on PEDs and these PEDs simply enhance ones performance... and we went back and stripped them all of the "enhancers" and made them re run the races, theoretically, wouldn't Lance still win considering they were only "enhancing their normal performance abilities? Relatively speaking...

[Legdog]

If we now know most, if not all them were on PEDs and these PEDs simply enhance ones performance... and we went back and stripped them all of the "enhancers" and made them re run the races, theoretically, wouldn't Lance still win considering they were only "enhancing their normal performance abilities? Relatively speaking...

Agreed

Which is possibly the saddest part of the story.

It was a "necessary evil" that severely tarnished the legacy of many that more than likely didn't change a thing on the podium if all were racing clean.

[47]

Agreed

Which is possibly the saddest part of the story.

It was a "necessary evil" that severely tarnished the legacy of many that more than likely didn't change a thing on the podium if all were racing clean.

Had a Drill SGT that used to say, "If you ain't cheat'n, you ain't compete'n"

I guess once word got around, they all knew they had to in order to keep up.