Minimum draw weight?

[Tommyh]

Buff, with you in the blind with that young man, the animal would stand still worried youd see it move hoping to get a pass! i think hed be able to hit it and the animal fall over and die just for you

[BustedAssRanch]

Well Tink looks like Howie & Jasmine proved your point..or did they..here is a quote from Howie on the LSBA site


"here is another reason jasmine shooting at 40 lbs she can do it and shoot well at 35 lbs she does not have to snap the bow to one side standing up she can draw 40 with ease in hunting situations she would be sitting normally but at 16 yards she can smack arrows"


So he is saying she can pull 35 in a hunting situation but not 40..I think I have said more than once to lower it to 35. No minimum draw weight in my opinion is a bad idea!

http://www.lonestarbowhunter.com/forum/showthread.php?p=8181#post8181

this is where I seen the video Scroll up to post 22 or so..I just looked at the date & it is from Oct..by the time we quit bickering about this she will be able to pull 40 & hunt

[Africanbowhunter]

Buff its up the the kid and his parent, like everything else

Asa daddy & now Grad daddy it up the dad to decide when Junior gets to go hunting


thats the way its always been

My son who had won 20 Archery Shooting Trophies before he shot his first turkey he was happy with the turkey and the next year went after deer and passed the shooting test on a Federal NWR refuge to get in.

His bow was able to shoot an arrow 130 yards so he was legal in Virginia


In case you missed it here is 7 YO Jeff Nathan with one of 2 Wt deer he shot on a 2 day hunt on a National Wildlife Refuge in Va....

Both were young but he thought they were does and he could NOT wait to call Mommy and Tell her he got a deer with his bow!


Now you promise me you wont let him hunt/kill/shoot deer till he can pull 40# at his draw OK?

That 40# recurve @ 20" is going to Smack down the deer

Wait & see if you change your mind in time

[BustedAssRanch]

My son is still happy sitting in the stand spending time with daddy. He will get their soon enough. Ain't that where memories are made? Gives him something to work toward. I promise he will not let him hunt/kill/shoot a deer till he can pull the required weight set fourth in the state we hunt.

[Buff]

BAR your avatar gives me the creeps

[BustedAssRanch]

[Red Dot]

Bow weight

Hi Fellas, Crossbows are illegal in Louisiana unless you are over 65 or greatly handicapped. I am going to be 70 years old March 16th and I can still pull my 40# draw weight. BUT, I have to KEEP in practice daily to do that.
My tiny little grand daughter will be 17 on April 29th. She is 4'5.5" tall and weighs 81 LB. She has won tournaments and medals for her accuracy in bow shooting and shoots fingers. She killed 4 deer last year between Christmas and New Years with a rifle because she wasn't allowed to use her bow. She got an Axis with a crossbow and the 3 white tails were bagged with a rile. One shot, one kill!!! She was very disapointed that she was not allowed to use her bow as she had been shooting with me every day to maintain her accuracy. She used my rangefinder and hit VERY accurately and deeply into the target~~~~~way for enough to kill a deer of any caliber at 20 yards shooting 28 LB.
Accuracy and Kenetic energy is the key no matter the weight you are pulling.
This is my opinion!!! BTW, Louisisna's draw weight is 35Lb. She is fully grown. Her mother is also a very small lady. When do you guys think she will "gowo" up to 40Lb????

[Red Dot]

Sorry, that "grow" was mispelled.
Putting a cross bow in the hands of a young child would be lots more dangerous than have him use a compound. JoLea was 16 and was taught to use the crossbow because she could not pull 40 Lb.

[Africanbowhunter]

My Granddaughter too!

JoLea is a tiny tiny framed Teen ager alamost 17

Here are some pix of her to show how petite she is.
When will she grow into a 40# Bow?

When will she grow into a 35# bow?

NEVER!

[BustedAssRanch]

Looks like she has..might have her do some push ups..helps with upper body strength

[Buff]

I bought my little niece a bow last year. it was 30 pounds. I told her when she worked up to 40 I would take her on a Sheep hunt. She did.... then I did. it took her about a month of shooting every day to get there. I guess I'm confused (not hard to do) the last girl is only shooting 28 pounds. So are you hoping that they lower it to 25? where does that leave my grandson who can't pull 10 yet?

[glen]

As far as the min. I hope by the time I get to an age where my body falls apart enough to not be able to pull and hold #40 the law has changed. It will happen to all of us and some may not care if they give up hunting at that time but I know that when it happens to me I will still have plenty of critters that I will want to ground check.

[Rabidbowhunter]

[QUOTE=Red Dot;520753]
Putting a cross bow in the hands of a young child would be lots more dangerous than have him use a compound

I dont see how thats true. I have seen plenty of little kids shoot great with crossbow and not able to shoot a compound to save their life.
35#s is as low as I would like to see it go and if it keeps a couple people out I hate to say it but oh well. Use a cross bow.

[Swat791]

It is humorous to hear someone say things like:
A person can shoot hogs and exotics if they can't pull 40#.
So what that means to me is..."Yes a bow with a lower draw weight is capable of killing animals, esp. hogs and exotics."

Is a whitetail deer harder to kill than a hog or exotic (Axis, Blackbuck, Fallow...) with less draw weight?

It has been proven that a larger hog has a tougher hide than a deer.
It has been proven that a 27 lb. bow is capable of killing a larger hog & deer.

If at 20 yards a 42# bow will sling a arrows through a big buck and travel 20 yards beyond that buck, explain to me why a bow at 21# won't go halfway though a big buck and kill it just as dead as the 42# bow.
Like I mentioned, there is already proof that a 27# bow will blow through a thick hide of a larger hog, so there should be no question that is would be able to pass through a deer.

I've heard that you need a heavy arrow and heavy broadhead to pass through a deer with a recurve bow. I don't believe it becasue I have (proof) shot light arrows and broadheads through deer.

There is a belief that there will be more wounded deer with lower poundage bows. Where is the proof? Is this just a personal feeling?

If we are able to show the facts, to the committee, that a low poundage bow can and will humanely kill deer then there is no reason not to change the law and abolish or reduce the minimum draw weight. The proof is testimonials from kids and parents and pictures of their animals, along with some moderate testing by shooting into different materials that simulate a whitetail deer. Wait, we don’t need to shoot into material that simulates a whitetail deer. Hogs and exotics, which have been killed, have provided to be the best test medium...we have pictures as proof.

We just need support, now! We need support from our own bow hunting community. The proof that low poundage bows are efficient in killing game animals has been presented and proven. Now, it appears that the only obstacle is based solely on personal beliefs/feeling from our own bow hunting community.

[Africanbowhunter]

JoLea has used crossbows and killed with them

She Don't like crossbow like many Bowhunters

Want to bowhunt with a real Bow!

She is full grown at 4 foot 5 1/inches@ 81# She isn't getting any taller and she has big muscles on her arms.


So you guys are saying she can never bowhunt deer huh? thats might selfish.

She has shot an Axis deer with the first shot from a Parker Crossbow and made a good clean kill.

but She doesn't like crossbows


Why is she to be denied the right to bowhunt deer on my ranch?

Roxanne is 40 year old 4 foot 10" lady with 4 children.
She is just unable to shoot much weight
she owns two Mathews bows.

So your saying Kind Sir that these two women 17 & 40 year of age can never bowhunt deer right?


No one has shown that 35# or 30# or 28# Bow is not lethal.

When in fact the arrow does the killing not the bow itself.

My friend Bruce Barrie of Rocky Mountain Broadhead fame killed a 400# Black bear with 29# recurve HERTERS bow in Minn when he was a kid.


The little deer we have in Texas are easier to kill than a 400# black bear

Each husband or parent will make sure their spouse or kids or in Buffs case grand kids have the best equipment and will use the best weight they can handle accurately. right or Wrong Sirs?

Would you allow either lady of them to shoot a Magnus Stinger Broadhead at you at 30 yards with a 28# Parker Challenger bow on a carbon arrow.?

I doubt it

As far a crossbows go I have seen enough adult point a loaded crossbow at my fat gut in shoots so kids and crossbow don't Mix.

In Talbot Co MD an 11 year old kid shot & Killed himself when his dad put him in a tree stand with a cocked crossbow. Tragic proof that kids should stick to bow that require some effort to draw hold & Aim.
Red Dot is right.
Kids and crossbow don't mix well.

Please rethink your comment sirs.
thanks