Minimum draw weight?

[Tommyh]

I'll see if I can talk to him tomorrow.

Then I have to find a kids bow to shoot them with!! Or find some kids to shoot them! That would be better but, having an adult shoot a kids bow would probably be more consistent with shot placement.

I will have to say that #30 would be the minimum i would try and keep the shots close. you know, common sense stuff but i am curious how it turns out! keep us informed!

[Africanbowhunter]

Roxanne is 40 mother of 4 & cannot pull 40#

Roxanne is a super lady 4'10" tall and mother to 4 children

She has 2 Mathews bows is a crack shot but after 2 years of trying she cannot draw more than 31# this is a huge hog she shot on her lease with a 31# Mathews Mustang Compound Bow set at 31# and she blew clear thru the boar.

But She has never hunted deer with a bow since she cant pull 40# Tell her she will grow into it? fat chance!

Please tell her her 31# Mathews Bow is not enough for Texas white-tailed deer OK? She hunts with a .243 Win but want to bowhunt and can't thanks to a stupid law.


This 40# BS is just that- Look at the folks who still support it!

Then look at the folks working to change a bad law.


Tink

[az2tx]

I'll see if I can talk to him tomorrow.

Then I have to find a kids bow to shoot them with!! Or find some kids to shoot them! That would be better but, having an adult shoot a kids bow would probably be more consistent with shot placement.

you ever try and shoot a kids bow? The only adult that can shoot a extremely short draw would be a midget

[BustedAssRanch]

Roxanne is a super lady 4'10" tall and mother to 4 children

She has 2 Mathews bows is a crack shot but after 2 years of trying she cannot draw more than 31# this is a huge hog she shot on her lease with a 31# Mathews Mustang Compound Bow set at 31# and she blew clear thru the boar.

But She has never hunted deer with a bow since she cant pull 40# Tell her she will grow into it? fat chance!

Please tell her her 31# Mathews Bow is not enough for Texas white-tailed deer OK? She hunts with a .243 Win but want to bowhunt and can't thanks to a stupid law.


This 40# BS is just that- Look at the folks who still support it!

Then look at the folks working to change a bad law.


Tink

Here we go again
I thought this was dead.
Roxanne, You can not shoot game animals in Texas till you pull 40 or the law has changed. I would invite you to look at the list at post 38 or so for states that have no draw weight or a 30 pound draw weight to hunt game animals in.

This 40# BS is just that- Look at the folks who still support it!

Then look at the folks working to change a bad law.

Not sure if you you are calling me a piece of bull **** because I support the current law??? I guess your right...screw it I told my son that Tink said the law sucks & he can hunt deer next year with his 31 pound bow. Wait....No I didnt I will support the law till it changes.I will teach my son to be a piece of bull **** and to support the law. Colton will not shoot deer till he can pull the correct weight & I am convinced he is ready.

As I have said every post of mine on this (quickly becoming useless) thread I support 35 pounds

[Tommyh]

As I have said every post of mine on this (quickly becoming useless) thread I support 35 pounds

30# would put us in line with a majority of the states and seems to be adequte for elk and mulies elsewhere. There is nothing with with the current law is you use old equipment, but updating it for the new, technologically advanced stuff would be nice.


There was a state or two that had separate poundages for different equipment and that seems to be the smartest move ive seen. Longbows get one weight, recurves go lower, and compounds lower than the rest at 30 or 35#. each one has its needs due to design and energy. I like it! lets do it!

[Africanbowhunter]

Not till the Fat Lady Sings, nope it ain't over!

Kevin she just as much right to hunt her lease as any one else.

What you do at your home is rightly your business.


No one said anything about what you do with your kids.

But to tell a lady champion Archer that she cannot hunt with a lethal deadly Mathews 31 # weapon is nonsense.

We are working hard get the law changed Sir.

No one, not me anyway, is suggesting she break the law.


Asking her to hunt outside of Texas is asinine Sir!

She rifle hunts her deer. She would love to bowhunt with her husband.

She will never never never be able to pull 40# or even 35# yet she's an ethical Texas Licensed Hunter who has paid for an archery license.

I wille mail her your letter kevin.


And No Sir... it ain't over till the Fat Lady Sings

[BustedAssRanch]

Tink I will support whatever law takes effect. Till then I support the 40 pound law. Do I like it? Not really, but while it is law I will support it. I plan on trying to make a TPWL meeting all though I dont think it will do any good. No one has shown any evidence that 40 or any poundage for that matter is good or bad. My war hero, my friend..whoever wants to bow hunt tells me nothing. My son wants to hunt..He wont till he pulls the required weight, Like I hope your friends do!

[Rabidbowhunter]

I dont believe that the law should be changed to anything lower then 35#s. We have done a good amount of testing at the store and just doesnt seem that under 35 there is much energy in a good hunting arrow. I know people kill pigs and things with less and thats great for them. I agree that the best idea would be to make different rules for different bows but dont see it going that way.

[Africanbowhunter]

Right on most hogs are larger and harder to kill then most deer BTW

lots of African game was killed with less than 35#

Thanks

Tink

[Africanbowhunter]

Howie & Jasmine: Here is the other thread

Howie- In case you missed it ---while you were in the hospital, I was Speaking with Peter Holt Chairman of the TP&W Commission and he said the Governor personally asked him to remove the weight restrictions.
Holt agrees, and I gave him a short background on the issue and data on other States,and he agrees with the Governor.


-Tink

[howie1968]

ive posted over and over and have videos and documentation to prove, as a professional hog hunting guide and hunter i have guided hundreds of kids woman and elderly what i am proposing is not based off nothing but facts, yes jas has over 20 kills with her credit using archery equipment in draw weights from 31-36 lbs she can pull 40 but not without jerking the bow and using bad form so i dropped it back down so for the 2nd year in a row my little hunter has not been able to hunt a deer, i promise you she would smoke the daylights out of a deer and blow completely through it she uses 2 bows a parker buck shot and her sponsored matthews ignition she is a jr pro staffer from hawglite as well. anyone who has seen this girl shoot knows she can shoot ive have worked with her since she was 4 yrs old, but lets put jasmine aside with modern technolgy you no longer need 70 lbs or 60 or 50 or even 40 a friend of mine and i did some tests using a 40 lb recurve and a 40 lb long bow compared to these modern bows you will be amzed at what we found using the same weight arrows in all tests these modern so called youth bows shot faster then these long bows or recurves, take nothing away from traditional archery as i also shoot traditionally as well, im a realist and it is time for change, education is the key proper shot placement knowing your maximum effective range and using the proper head for the job

[Africanbowhunter]

Howie Good post

well said Sir!

What people are forgetting is that this initiative is to REMOVE THE 40# Weight draw requirement on bowhunting equipment.


Not to reduce the weight!


Please make sure you & Jjasmine get to a meeting of TP&W in your areas wit copie sof pix they can keep. Meetign start at 7 PM.

Thanks for raising this issue Daddy.


Tink

[BustedAssRanch]

ive posted over and over and have videos and documentation to prove, as a professional hog hunting guide and hunter i have guided hundreds of kids woman and elderly what i am proposing is not based off nothing but facts, yes jas has over 20 kills with her credit using archery equipment in draw weights from 31-36 lbs she can pull 40 but not without jerking the bow and using bad form so i dropped it back down so for the 2nd year in a row my little hunter has not been able to hunt a deer, i promise you she would smoke the daylights out of a deer and blow completely through it she uses 2 bows a parker buck shot and her sponsored matthews ignition she is a jr pro staffer from hawglite as well. anyone who has seen this girl shoot knows she can shoot ive have worked with her since she was 4 yrs old, but lets put jasmine aside with modern technolgy you no longer need 70 lbs or 60 or 50 or even 40 a friend of mine and i did some tests using a 40 lb recurve and a 40 lb long bow compared to these modern bows you will be amzed at what we found using the same weight arrows in all tests these modern so called youth bows shot faster then these long bows or recurves, take nothing away from traditional archery as i also shoot traditionally as well, im a realist and it is time for change, education is the key proper shot placement knowing your maximum effective range and using the proper head for the job

I believe I seen a video of her shooting..I think I even asked if she jerked around that much all the time or if it was a ritual? No offense but if she is in a blind struggling that much to pull the bow back maybe she should wait a few years till she can pull safely. Sitting in a blind or a tree & doing what I think I remember seeing her do can not be safe for her or the adult she is hunting with.

[Africanbowhunter]

Kevin you made my Point sir!

C oach Willaims turned Alexis's Bow weight up to 40# and she could not handle it.

You may have been looking at Alexis Williams as the girl that shot the Pig


I have asked again and again


Which is better to have an Injured, Elderly or a youth struggle to break over 40# and shake and wobble and maybe not hit a vital?


or Let the Young Bowhunter shoot at a weight she is accurate with be it 31# or 35# or what ever?


The right choice is the set the bow that the archery can handle


the term is "over bowed " with a daddy or a law makes a hunter shoot more draw weight that he/she can handle.

ergo the film

In Africa we used to say

"a .22 rimfire behind the front shoulder is a ****ed site better that a 500 grain Solid from a .460 Weatherby Magnum in the arse."


the National Bowhunter Education Program (IBEP)advises against overbowing bowshooters in hunting. this is the reason Why!

thanks You made the point Sir.

As a reselt neither Miss Jasmine Smith, (12) nor Alexis Williams(age 12) was able to bowhunt whitetail deer last fall.

I know that pleases you.

They kids obey the law and the law is an "***."
BTW Alexis filmed her own first hog kill.


we appreciate your comments


Great Looking dog you have too!

[Buff]

My Grandson wants to shoot deer with his bow. It is 7 pounds. I guess if they do away with the minimum draw weight he will be able to shoot deer instead of just sitting in the blind with me. Where do you draw the line? Why do you hate my grandson? what did he ever do to you that makes you want him to have to wait to start hunting with a bow..... you old Meany guts