Low T (testosterone)

[ecfire1967]

I've been getting shots for two years. At the office right now. I feel much better. Low T Center at Heritage Trace North Fort Worth.

[Claybird]

I asked my endo yesterday about the need to cycle and they did not recommend it. said they nor and of the urologist in Austin encourage "cycling". said cycling is more for large quantities being taken for bodybuilding.

I guess there is two schools of though going on with the doctors

Or maybe it's just an Austin thing?? joking...

I do it more to clean the receptor cells than anything, and still try to get a little natural production from time to time. For the first 2 weeks of the HCG cycle my test levels actually go up. I can feel a difference when I cycle on and off. I promise it's not just for the recreational juicers.

It's possible my doc has me cycling because I'm still young, but the bottom line is that it helps me. May be worth looking into or talking to another doc about.

[Swampa]

I've been getting shots for two years. At the office right now. I feel much better. Low T Center at Heritage Trace North Fort Worth.

You go in to get your shot?

[ted_kennedys_liver]

Or maybe it's just an Austin thing?? joking...

I do it more to clean the receptor cells than anything, and still try to get a little natural production from time to time. For the first 2 weeks of the HCG cycle my test levels actually go up. I can feel a difference when I cycle on and off. I promise it's not just for the recreational juicers.

It's possible my doc has me cycling because I'm still young, but the bottom line is that it helps me. May be worth looking into or talking to another doc about.

this is why I choose to live in.hays county but doctor is in Austin

I agree completely. cycling just makes sense no matter the quantity one takes but I am not a doc. age may be one of the reasons they don't encourage cycling. I will ask more about it in 3 months.

I was on it for 3 years last go around but didn't seem to have any adverse effects (unless impotency is important it will make you shoot blanks. I has zero sperm count when it came time to investigate pregnancy issues. took about 5 months for hcg to get me remotely back to production. required iui to work)

[Claybird]

this is why I choose to live in.hays county but doctor is in Austin

I agree completely. cycling just makes sense no matter the quantity one takes but I am not a doc. age may be one of the reasons they don't encourage cycling. I will ask more about it in 3 months.

I was on it for 3 years last go around but didn't seem to have any adverse effects (unless impotency is important it will make you shoot blanks. I has zero sperm count when it came time to investigate pregnancy issues. took about 5 months for hcg to get me remotely back to production. required iui to work)

Sounds about right. Part of the reason my doc has me cycle is because one day I'd like to be able to have kids (though hopefully not anytime soon!).

A cheaper alternative for cycling off is Clomid. Costs me $53 for a one month supply of that vs $350 for the last round of HCG I did. The HCG was more effective for cleansing but the Clomid is still good. Also make sure you've got estrogen blockers during the off cycle.

My opinion is that regardless of age, or type of usage (recreational/prescription), the off cycle certainly helps. I've seen it in my blood tests, which I get every other month.

[buckmastertexas]

I was diagnosed at 38 years old. My numbers were just below 200. My symptoms were: no energy, constant fatigue, and I started watching Golden Girls reruns when my wife would go to bed. Started on the gel but it didn't work. Been on injections since then haven't looked back. IMO anything but injections is ineffective.

What are you watching now? lol

[2050z]

You go in to get your shot?

I have finally gotten used to the needle in the leg.

[Claybird]

I have finally gotten used to the needle in the leg.

If you can, use a 21G 1" needle to draw the test, and switch the head to a 23G 1" when you inject. Helps a bunch on the injection site, no scar tissue build up.

[Osceola]

If you can, use a 21G 1" needle to draw the test, and switch the head to a 23G 1" when you inject. Helps a bunch on the injection site, no scar tissue build up.

Man I wish I could use 1" needles.My doctor insist I use 1 1/2".I buy 18ga from the vet supply to fill with and 22ga for the shot.I think I'll try some 21ga.

[Claybird]

Man I wish I could use 1" needles.My doctor insist I use 1 1/2".I buy 18ga from the vet supply to fill with and 22ga for the shot.I think I'll try some 21ga.

The 1.5" is overkill, IMO, but then again I don't have an "MD" after my name.

The 18G is fine for drawing. 22G is good for injecting. I prefer the 21/23 combo but that's just what's worked best for me.

I'd be curious to know why your doctor recommends the 1.5" needle. I know quite a few people prescribed and probably twice as many recreational users and the only people who use 1.5" needles are the ones who for some reason couldn't get 1". If he gives you any reason feel free to share!

[2050z]

If you can, use a 21G 1" needle to draw the test, and switch the head to a 23G 1" when you inject. Helps a bunch on the injection site, no scar tissue build up.

21 to draw now and 22 to inject. I switch legs every two weeks. Doctors orders. Check up in May to get blood work and levels tested.

[Claybird]

21 to draw now and 22 to inject. I switch legs every two weeks. Doctors orders. Check up in May to get blood work and levels tested.

I got ya. I used to rotate legs every shot. Now I circle between alternating legs and alternating cheeks lol. Keeps the injection sites cleaner.

[ecfire1967]

You go in to get your shot?

Yes

[Slewfoot]

So you're an MD?

I've heard that Testosterone cannot be taken as a pill because of the digestive system and that it can only be injected or taken as a skin patch. Is that incorrect?

According to my doctor, the best is injections for best control. The other ways can be inconsistant and can affect the liver in adverse ways.

[ecfire1967]

Since I've been getting injections my libido is like I'm a teenager but with the self control of a 46 year old man. It's great!