How to cure the ammo issue in just a few months

[Tony Pic]

How about the simple fact that all Lead the USA gets now is imported due to Obama closing the smelting plants during his tenure. As long as Biden et al are in office anything anti left will remain high in price and short in supply.

[BJ DUPLECHAIN]

The problem is, the prices will never go down. Back when gas/ diesel got up to around $5/gallon, prices went up significantly on just about everything. High gas prices got the blame for to shipping/trucking costs. Once fuel prices went down to "normal" it was expected that other prices would go down. I have not seen the reversal of the significant increase take place.

[RJH1]

This is a bad, bad idea. Scrap it. Based on your projected numbers, $100 of ammo will become $200, then $240, then $288, nearly triple of the original price, which is what it is now. Did I say this was a very bad idea?

That's correct it would be triple price. But it would be available fairly readily. Now it's triple price if you can find it. Academy prices are great except there's nothing on the Shelf. Hell, prices at Academy could be free and it wouldn't be any different because there's no ammo there. If there is a product that Demand skyrockets, buy Supply can't even begin to keep up, the only solution that has product left on the Shelf is to raise the prices. I would rather Academy raise their price and have ammo available, then the store keeps their prices low and a few people run in and grab all the ammo, and then there's no ammo available for 90% of the people who are looking for it. As demand drops, so would the prices back to the pre craziness rates.


Or we can keep the rates artificially low, and have no ammo available because that's working so well now

[RJH1]

The problem is, the prices will never go down. Back when gas/ diesel got up to around $5/gallon, prices went up significantly on just about everything. High gas prices got the blame for to shipping/trucking costs. Once fuel prices went down to "normal" it was expected that other prices would go down. I have not seen the reversal of the significant increase take place.

This is proven completely false by the fact that all the ARs and AR mags that were through the roof when Obama got elected , were at basically their lowest price ever by the time he left office

[SabineHunter]

That's correct it would be triple price. But it would be available fairly readily. Now it's triple price if you can find it. Academy prices are great except there's nothing on the Shelf. Hell, prices at Academy could be free and it wouldn't be any different because there's no ammo there. If there is a product that Demand skyrockets, buy Supply can't even begin to keep up, the only solution that has product left on the Shelf is to raise the prices. I would rather Academy raise their price and have ammo available, then the store keeps their prices low and a few people run in and grab all the ammo, and then there's no ammo available for 90% of the people who are looking for it. As demand drops, so would the prices back to the pre craziness rates.


Or we can keep the rates artificially low, and have no ammo available because that's working so well now

You know, you speak of socialism where prices are regulated, not supply and demand. Go get yours at a store in Venezuela, see how that works out for ya. This is the price for not being prepared. I have tens of thousands of rounds I need I bought when it was cheap. Don't like it, too bad. Your plan won't work.

[BigJimmyRustler]

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[trophy8]

This might be the dumbest **** I’ve seen anyone say about the ammo situation yet. Lol. Congrats.

[Dale Moser]

How many of you nerds stock piled three months worth of toilet paper last spring…? Come on now, speak up, it was most of you…


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[muzzlebrake]

If you don't eat so much you don't need so much toilet paper. Same goes for ammo. Just stop wasting ammo and you won't need as much and the shelves will be full again. Said no one

[RJH1]

I'm considering going to Academy in the morning, buying my quota, and then selling it at an extremely marked up price.

[RifleBowPistol]

We all want ammo, here is how to get it as quick as possible:

1 Ammo companies need to install ~100% mark up to wholesalers

2 Wholesalers need to install ~20%markup to retailers

3 Retailers need to install ~20% markup to the customers



These numbers are approximate, but the end result needs to be ~$1 a round for FMJ pistol ammo and $4 a round for basic rifle ammo (could possibly need to be even higher). While i know some people will think this is a horrible idea, select ammo would be available if needed, and in a short time the shelves would be full. The best way to stop a run on a product is to price it out of hoarders/scalpers reach. After the shelves start to fill up, the price can come down to a more reasonable market value. In reality, you are going to have to pay market value for ammo if you need it right now regardless of where you buy it. It would be easier to pay a higher price at Academy or somewhere and get what you need than have to order it from the scalpers on gunbroker, or not be able to get it at all, which is the case for many at this point

So you are saying only the rich should have ammo, the common man can go pound sand?

[3ChordTruth]

Horrible idea.

Economic classes are available online or at your local community college.

X2, a horrible idea, but …

No need for economics classes available online or at your local community college, Jerp has already posted a supply and demand lesson for us. To understand where we are and where we will likely be, invest about a minute to consider Jerp’s Economics 101 which I have copied below:

The sun rises in the east, water finds its own level and supply/demand always determines prices in the long run. The buying mania can't go on forever. It actually may have already peaked but pricing bubbles often go on much longer than expected. At some point the frenzy will wane and prices will have to come down in order for manufacturers, wholesalers and retailers to move inventory. Those prices may be above the old lows but they will be significantly less than they are now. You also have people who now have a ton of money tied up in overpriced ammo. That is a dead asset that pays no dividends and after prices have been back down for a while you'll see many of them trying to unload some of their stash, driving prices down further.

Thanks for the explanation John, and better days of burning not stockpiling ammo are ahead for us all.

[RUNNING BEAR]

This is not a “cure”. This is “let them eat cake”.

[RJH1]

What Is the Law of Supply and Demand?
The law of supply and demand is a theory that explains the interaction between the sellers of a resource and the buyers for that resource. The theory defines the relationship between the price of a given good or product and the willingness of people to either buy or sell it. Generally, as price increases people are willing to supply more and demand less and vice versa when the price falls.


KEY TAKEAWAYS
The law of demand says that at higher prices, buyers will demand less of an economic good.
The law of supply says that at higher prices, sellers will supply more of an economic good.
These two laws interact to determine the actual market prices and volume of goods that are traded on a market.
Several independent factors can affect the shape of market supply and demand, influencing both the prices and quantities that we observe in markets.

[RUNNING BEAR]

So you’re saying that every retailer who is out of ammo right now does not understand supply and demand????

The mega companies who are publicly traded and have investors to answer to don’t know what they are doing.

Yeah, you prob right :-)