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    #46
    Originally posted by Cajun Blake View Post
    M,



    all the add-ons and cosmetic improvements are nickel and diming your build price up



    you have $475 tied up in the cerakote, brake, barrel fluting, and bolt fluting/knob .

    Those are very nice additions but do nothing to improve accuracy, they just look cool. The beauty of a custom rifle is YOU can build it however you want.





    here is the break down based on my gunsmith charges and buying parts individually



    Stiller custom action ..$ 950

    Hart ss barrel .......... $ 315

    Jewell ..................... $ 205

    pillar / glass bed .......$ 225

    manners /McM stock ..$ 515 or more depending on options

    fit, chamber, crown ...$ 225

    BDL floor plate .........$ 50



    total ....................$ 2485



    if on a budget, you can save $700 by going with a HS Precision stock, and Remington 700 action that has been blue-printed . Price would then be $1785.





    completed rifle would resemble this




    Correct, that's individual prices but there is no work included in those. That Hart barrel looks cheap by the prices I've seen.

    The floor of a custom rifle with a custom action is 3k with work all in.

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      #47
      26 Nosler ???

      Originally posted by JustinJanow View Post
      Oh, it's no doubt impressive. And I was just going off Noslers printed numbers. The 257, 270 and 7mm WBY are all close in ballistic performance. No idea about VLD bullets as I don't reload, but I'm sure it will further outperform these WBY calibers, but could you shoot VLD bullets out of one of those calibers too?

      Not trying to take away from the round at all, but its not some incredible life altering cartridge that completely blows away the competition. And it drives me crazy that they say its MPBR is 415. That's just a lie.




      PS - I am a self admitted Weatherby lover for full disclosure haha, but the 7mm RUM is close too, and they use the heavy bullet.
      I'm not saying its the be all/end all but I am an admitted 6.5mm fan.

      And as to the 415 yard MPBR, its not a lie. I can make up any MPBR just depending on where I want to set my zero and what size I target I want to base it off of. Maybe a bit of shady marketing speech but not lying. I typically base my MBPR on a 6" target because i primarily hunt deer and pigs but I suspect they are basing theirs off targets more along the likes of elk and possibly moose, hence the 10" target size.

      And FTR, I love my 257 Weatherby, but I love my 6.5s too.

      And yes the 7RUM is close but it stomps on you too. I guess we shall find out what recoil is like when one of these guys gets their rifle finished. I don't see it being nearly as punishing as a 7mm, 300 or 338 RUM or 338 Lapua.
      Last edited by Mike D; 05-14-2014, 08:17 AM.

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        #48
        $300 to $350 will get most barrels to your door. The Bartlein I have ordered for my 6.5 Creed build coming up is $325 for a 28", SS, 4 groove, #8 contour with 1 in 8" twist.

        I am using my old 40 XBKS as the donor action (no cost), with about 3500 rounds of hot 220 Swift down it, I figure i have already gotten my moneys worth out of it. It has the factory 40X trigger in it that is plenty good enough for me (no cost), and the stock is an older McMillan Kevlar that will suit my needs just fine (once again, no cost).

        My spot in line with Jon Beanland is coming up here just as soon as the barrel gets here, which should be in 2-3 weeks now. He is charging me $525 to true the action and chamber it.

        Since I do my own Cerakote, I will save that money too, and i can bed it just fine as well.

        So, that build I will only have about $875 in it before scope, and I already have that on hand too. You don't have to spend tons of money to get a top tier rifle.

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          #49
          Yes, you can get a barrel for 300 bucks, but it's not chambered, cut, crowned, anything.

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            #50
            That is what the $525 to Jon Beanland is for. I thought the question was barrel price, not gunsmithing work? $315 for a Hart barrel is right in line, just about what I paid for the one on my sons .270 several years ago.

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              #51
              26 Nosler ???

              Originally posted by Jethro View Post
              $300 to $350 will get most barrels to your door. The Bartlein I have ordered for my 6.5 Creed build coming up is $325 for a 28", SS, 4 groove, #8 contour with 1 in 8" twist.

              I am using my old 40 XBKS as the donor action (no cost), with about 3500 rounds of hot 220 Swift down it, I figure i have already gotten my moneys worth out of it. It has the factory 40X trigger in it that is plenty good enough for me (no cost), and the stock is an older McMillan Kevlar that will suit my needs just fine (once again, no cost).

              My spot in line with Jon Beanland is coming up here just as soon as the barrel gets here, which should be in 2-3 weeks now. He is charging me $525 to true the action and chamber it.

              Since I do my own Cerakote, I will save that money too, and i can bed it just fine as well.

              So, that build I will only have about $875 in it before scope, and I already have that on hand too. You don't have to spend tons of money to get a top tier rifle.
              Yeah that's great if you already have the expensive parts and you do some of the work yourself as well. If I'm gonna invest the time and money in a custom, I'm paying somebody to do it right.

              I can pretty much do any work short of actual machine work myself but there are folks that do it for a living and do a far better job than I. If they screw something up they fix it. If I DIY and I screw something then I pay for it twice.

              But you had to buy them at some point.
              Last edited by Mike D; 05-14-2014, 11:55 AM.

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                #52
                Originally posted by Jethro View Post
                That is what the $525 to Jon Beanland is for. I thought the question was barrel price, not gunsmithing work? $315 for a Hart barrel is right in line, just about what I paid for the one on my sons .270 several years ago.

                I understand your point but, if someone sells you a car without a steering wheel and tires you won't get very far.

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                  #53
                  Sorry Travis, we must not be talking about the same thing. I was just going by the bottom of your post #46 where you say "The price on that Hart barrel looks cheap to me." The price Blake quoted was $315. All I am saying is that yeah, it is a good deal for sure, but not out of line at all. The Bartlein I am getting is just $10 more at $325. I know there is lots more to have it finished and fitted, but it seemed you were disputing the price he quoted for the barrel. That is all. If that is not what you were saying, then I apologize.

                  I do know starting with a donor rifle isn't the same (price wise) as buying all new, custom parts. I'm just saying there are other options if you happen to be on a budget. Options that can easily produce a rifle that shoots just as well. Something as simple as bedding just really isn't that hard to get right either, you don't have to be a big name gunsmith to know what you are doing with that kind of stuff.

                  To the OP, sorry for the thread hijack, I am out of here. I won't derail it any further.

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                    #54
                    Originally posted by mesquitecountry View Post
                    Correct, that's individual prices but there is no work included in those. That Hart barrel looks cheap by the prices I've seen.

                    The floor of a custom rifle with a custom action is 3k with work all in.

                    T

                    just curious what your gunsmith charges for a custom barrel , and the fit, chamber, crown

                    HART barrels costs $315 as noted in link below. Other top name barrels will vary +/- $25 depending on who you go with . Fluting usually adds $120 to standard barrel prices.

                    Fit, chamber, crown barrel to action will usually run $225 to 250 depending on the smith. The total price for a custom barrel installed onto your action should be $550-600 tops. Fluting and cerakote will add more

                    pillar and glass-bedding should be $200-250 at most

                    on avg. custom actions run between $950 - 1100

                    if the GS buys the parts for you, expect a price increase up to 20% for his services. Most GS's do not want to handle all the phone calls and ordering from dealers. Buy it yourself and save $$$$. Deliver the parts to the GS which will save time and $$$ on your completed build.

                    barrel pricing:

                    http://www.hartbarrels.com/prices.php

                    http://www.bartleinbarrels.com/barrelpricing.htm

                    http://www.kriegerbarrels.com/Calibe...246-wp3390.htm

                    http://www.riflebarrels.com/products...ock_barrel.htm

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                      #55
                      Originally posted by Cajun Blake View Post
                      T

                      just curious what your gunsmith charges for a custom barrel , and the fit, chamber, crown

                      HART barrels costs $315 as noted in link below. Other top name barrels will vary +/- $25 depending on who you go with . Fluting usually adds $120 to standard barrel prices.

                      Fit, chamber, crown barrel to action will usually run $225 to 250 depending on the smith. The total price for a custom barrel installed onto your action should be $550-600 tops. Fluting and cerakote will add more

                      pillar and glass-bedding should be $200-250 at most

                      on avg. custom actions run between $950 - 1100

                      if the GS buys the parts for you, expect a price increase up to 20% for his services. Most GS's do not want to handle all the phone calls and ordering from dealers. Buy it yourself and save $$$$. Deliver the parts to the GS which will save time and $$$ on your completed build.

                      barrel pricing:

                      http://www.hartbarrels.com/prices.php

                      http://www.bartleinbarrels.com/barrelpricing.htm

                      http://www.kriegerbarrels.com/Calibe...246-wp3390.htm

                      http://www.riflebarrels.com/products...ock_barrel.htm

                      I normally buy everything through my gunsmith just to have him make a little money. Its worth it for me to spend a bit extra and have him round everything up most of the time and his prices are very reasonable.

                      $375 for a lilja or krieger blank

                      $175 for barrel chamber/install

                      I forget the charge for bedding but its cheap. <$100.

                      I can build a completely loaded rifle minus optics with all the good stuff (stiller, mcmillan, jewell, etc) including fluting and a threaded barrel ready to roll minus my optics for right at $3200 through my smith. Of course i always end up finding reloading components or other cool stuff in his shop and i end up spending more Tricky fellers!!

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                        #56
                        Originally posted by trophy8 View Post
                        I normally buy everything through my gunsmith just to have him make a little money. Its worth it for me to spend a bit extra and have him round everything up most of the time and his prices are very reasonable.



                        $375 for a lilja or krieger blank



                        $175 for barrel chamber/install



                        I forget the charge for bedding but its cheap. <$100.



                        I can build a completely loaded rifle minus optics with all the good stuff (stiller, mcmillan, jewell, etc) including fluting and a threaded barrel ready to roll minus my optics for right at $3200 through my smith. Of course i always end up finding reloading components or other cool stuff in his shop and i end up spending more Tricky fellers!!



                        This. I like to spread some love to the local guys that deserve it.

                        My hart 6 spiral flute was around 500? I think.

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                          #57
                          26 Nosler ???

                          Originally posted by mesquitecountry View Post
                          This. I like to spread some love to the local guys that deserve it.

                          My hart 6 spiral flute was around 500? I think.
                          Travis, Hart charges $180 for the spiral fluting. And they don't machine it very deep BTW.

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                            #58
                            Originally posted by Mike D View Post
                            Travis, Hart charges $180 for the spiral fluting. And they don't machine it very deep BTW.


                            Yep. Already have one.

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                              #59
                              I should have my spiral fluted stick to post here shortly

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                                #60
                                Originally posted by trophy8 View Post
                                I should have my spiral fluted stick to post here shortly
                                Slacker.

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