Shield 9mm or .40cal

[tvc184]

When you go to the gun shop, ask the sales person to open up a box of 9mm and a .40 S&W and then decide which one you want to save your life. The .40 S&W is merely a 10mm (that's packs a whallop) with a shorter case and less powder.

Then pick up a rule and see how much wider 1mm more is.

Then realize that they both will expand (according to which brand used) from .50-.90 caliber or up to 23mm .... making their starting diameter meaningless.

[JW]

Shield 9mm or .40cal

40 pushin a 180 Gold Dot.

That said I wouldn't wanna be shot with either!

[solocam slayer]

I just bought the sheild 9mm. Much easier to control than my .40, ecspecially with the short barrel.

[Rudyl]

My concealed carry .40 is a bit more difficult to control than the 9mm, just prefer the 9

[Mojo]

If you were out target shootin' both, I bet you'd put that .40 down and continue with the 9mm...

[DuramaxDude]

40 pushin a 180 Gold Dot.

That said I wouldn't wanna be shot with either!

Watched a guy on you tube that shot the .40 and he was saying that the 165gr jhp had a little more flip than the 180gr jhp I guess due to the velocity difference. Have you noticed that?

[onetondodge]

If you would look state police are actually fixing to be issued 9mm now. Atleast that's from one of our locals. So apparently some knows something. With new day ballistics a 9 is great round with right ammo. Plus it lets you add one extra round in the mag. For all of those that carry a big bore to make up for something do some dang reading before you make some off the wall comment

[corycollier88]

Personally I think my shield 40 shoots smooth and very nice.. No problems here I just try to keep all the same caliber

[tpcollins]

If you would look state police are actually fixing to be issued 9mm now. For all of those that carry a big bore to make up for something do some dang reading before you make some off the wall comment

Ok, here's what I found:

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What state troopers carry...

This is a pretty well confirmed and up-to-date list of what 'state patrols' carry as gun brands and caliber. Although I won't disclose the source, I do trust it.

Just a thing of interest or curiosity.

Alabama Glock 22/23 (.40 S&W)
Alaska Glock 22/23 (.40 S&W)
Arizona Sig P226 (.40 S&W)
Arkansas Glock 21SF (State Police), Glock 22 (S.P. Highway Patrol) (.45 ACP, .40 S&W)
California S&W 4006TSW (.40 S&W)
Colorado S&W M&P (.40 S&W)
Connecticut Sig P226/P229 (.40 S&W)
Delaware Sig P229 (.357Sig)
Florida Glock 37 (.45 GAP)
Georgia Glock 37 (.45 GAP)
Hawaii (State Sheriff's Office, Honolulu) S&W M&P (9mm)
Idaho Glock 21 (.45 ACP) or Glock 22 (.40 S&W)
Illinois Glock 22 (.40 S&W)
Indiana Glock 17 (9mm)
Iowa S&W M&P (.40 S&W)
Kansas Glock 21 (.45 ACP)
Kentucky Glock 35 (.40 S&W)...........Transitioning to Gen 4 G35
Lousiana Glock 22 (.40 S&W)
Maine HK USP (.45 ACP)
Maryland Beretta Px4 (.40 S&W)
Massachusetts S&W M&P (.45 ACP)
Michigan Sig P226 (.40 S&W)
Minnesota Glock 22 (.40 S&W)
Mississippi Glock 22 (.40 S&W)
Missouri Glock 22 (.40 S&W)
Montana Sig P229 (.357Sig)
Nebraska Glock 22 (.40 S&W)
Nevada Sig P229 (.40 S&W)
New Hampshire S&W M&P (.45 ACP)
New Jersey Sig 228 (9mm)
New Mexico S&W M&P (.357 Sig).........The latest word is that NM has gone back to .40 for cost reasons
New York Glock 37 (.45 GAP)
North Carolina S&W M&P(.357Sig)
North Dakota Glock 22 (.40 S&W)
Ohio Sig P229/P226 (.40 S&W)
Oklahoma Sig P226R (.357Sig)
Oregon S&W M&P (.40 S&W)
Pennsylvania Glock 37 (.45 GAP)
Rhode Island Sig P229 (.357Sig)
South Carolina Glock 37 (.45 GAP)
South Dakota Sig P229 (.357 Sig)
Tennessee Glock 31 (.357Sig)
Texas Sig P229/P226 (.357Sig)
Utah Glock 22 (.40 S&W)
Vermont S&W M&P (.40 S&W)
Virginia Sig P229RDAK (.357Sig)
Washington S&W M&P (.40 S&W)
West Virginia S&W 4566TSW (.45 ACP)
Wisconsin Glock 22 (.40 S&W)
Wyoming S&W M&P (.40 S&W)


Seems like there's a few more .40s than nines. I think the debate could be more of a "buyer's remorse" issue. I'm sure there are people happy with their nines and those that are happy with their .40. Could be when the people that bought nines actually get to see a .40 cartridge, they think "dang, wish I'd bought a .40" instead of the nine. So to justify their buying a nine, they feel compelled to trash the .40.

By the way, my calculator is busted, could someone add up the totals and post them? Thanks.

[JW]

Watched a guy on you tube that shot the .40 and he was saying that the 165gr jhp had a little more flip than the 180gr jhp I guess due to the velocity difference. Have you noticed that?

I've only shot the 180's. Honestly I don't notice much diff between it and a nine.

[onetondodge]

No need for a calculator. All mike d and I are saying is that there 40 is hardly any difference than a 9 these days. Plus you gain an extra round in the mag. I for one am one of those that like have extra rounds. Why I have a Springfield xdm in 9. I can carry 19 rather than 14. And I guess I better go tell my tropper buddy the doesn't a know a dang thing. Don't know why he would tell me about them making the switch in the near future.

[gatorgrizz27]

No handgun round has anywhere near the power of a rifle, and 80% of handgun shootings are non-lethal. Arguing 9mm v .40 v .45 is like arguing .223 50 gr, 53 gr, and 55 gr, doesn't make a **** bit of difference.

.40 is not going to have any real world advantage over a 9mm, I'd go with the extra round and putting as many bullets as quickly as possible on target.

[clayg08]

Watched a guy on you tube that shot the .40 and he was saying that the 165gr jhp had a little more flip than the 180gr jhp I guess due to the velocity difference. Have you noticed that?

I've only owned one .40, in the XD. It would fire anything you fed through it, and it was more enjoyable to shoot with a heavier round for sure.

[Stykbow]

Go shoot a hog with a 9mm then shoot one with a 40. May be only 1mm diff. but a big diff in results if you use identical bullets.

[Mike D]

Ok, here's what I found:

*******************************************

What state troopers carry...

This is a pretty well confirmed and up-to-date list of what 'state patrols' carry as gun brands and caliber. Although I won't disclose the source, I do trust it.

Just a thing of interest or curiosity.

Alabama Glock 22/23 (.40 S&W)
Alaska Glock 22/23 (.40 S&W)
Arizona Sig P226 (.40 S&W)
Arkansas Glock 21SF (State Police), Glock 22 (S.P. Highway Patrol) (.45 ACP, .40 S&W)
California S&W 4006TSW (.40 S&W)
Colorado S&W M&P (.40 S&W)
Connecticut Sig P226/P229 (.40 S&W)
Delaware Sig P229 (.357Sig)
Florida Glock 37 (.45 GAP)
Georgia Glock 37 (.45 GAP)
Hawaii (State Sheriff's Office, Honolulu) S&W M&P (9mm)
Idaho Glock 21 (.45 ACP) or Glock 22 (.40 S&W)
Illinois Glock 22 (.40 S&W)
Indiana Glock 17 (9mm)
Iowa S&W M&P (.40 S&W)
Kansas Glock 21 (.45 ACP)
Kentucky Glock 35 (.40 S&W)...........Transitioning to Gen 4 G35
Lousiana Glock 22 (.40 S&W)
Maine HK USP (.45 ACP)
Maryland Beretta Px4 (.40 S&W)
Massachusetts S&W M&P (.45 ACP)
Michigan Sig P226 (.40 S&W)
Minnesota Glock 22 (.40 S&W)
Mississippi Glock 22 (.40 S&W)
Missouri Glock 22 (.40 S&W)
Montana Sig P229 (.357Sig)
Nebraska Glock 22 (.40 S&W)
Nevada Sig P229 (.40 S&W)
New Hampshire S&W M&P (.45 ACP)
New Jersey Sig 228 (9mm)
New Mexico S&W M&P (.357 Sig).........The latest word is that NM has gone back to .40 for cost reasons
New York Glock 37 (.45 GAP)
North Carolina S&W M&P(.357Sig)
North Dakota Glock 22 (.40 S&W)
Ohio Sig P229/P226 (.40 S&W)
Oklahoma Sig P226R (.357Sig)
Oregon S&W M&P (.40 S&W)
Pennsylvania Glock 37 (.45 GAP)
Rhode Island Sig P229 (.357Sig)
South Carolina Glock 37 (.45 GAP)
South Dakota Sig P229 (.357 Sig)
Tennessee Glock 31 (.357Sig)
Texas Sig P229/P226 (.357Sig)
Utah Glock 22 (.40 S&W)
Vermont S&W M&P (.40 S&W)
Virginia Sig P229RDAK (.357Sig)
Washington S&W M&P (.40 S&W)
West Virginia S&W 4566TSW (.45 ACP)
Wisconsin Glock 22 (.40 S&W)
Wyoming S&W M&P (.40 S&W)


Seems like there's a few more .40s than nines. I think the debate could be more of a "buyer's remorse" issue. I'm sure there are people happy with their nines and those that are happy with their .40. Could be when the people that bought nines actually get to see a .40 cartridge, they think "dang, wish I'd bought a .40" instead of the nine. So to justify their buying a nine, they feel compelled to trash the .40.

By the way, my calculator is busted, could someone add up the totals and post them? Thanks.

Yeah and the 38 special was the standard issue round for many years, still doesn't mean just because the police buy it that its the best round available.

If you will quit being hard headed and READ and WATCH real life shooting studies you will see your argument is just stupid.