Open carry bill in texas

[Jackson357]

Y'all can have all that open carry. I'll keep them guessing. Open carry just makes you the first target for a nut job looking to shoot a place up.

Agree. I do not support the open carry. It's gonna do different things. Either make you & your family a target or persuade them to go after an easier target. If they can see your pretty gun chances are your putting yourself & family in harms way. It's like the 21' knife rule vs a holstered pistol. They have in there mind what they want. Now you have to react. They are gonna win every time. Y'all keep that open carry.

[Coach W]

Agree. I do not support the open carry. It's gonna do different things. Either make you & your family a target or persuade them to go after an easier target. If they can see your pretty gun chances are your putting yourself & family in harms way. It's like the 21' knife rule vs a holstered pistol. They have in there mind what they want. Now you have to react. They are gonna win every time. Y'all keep that open carry.

I support ANY time our 2nd amendment rights are given back to us.

Just because you personally wouldn't choose to carry that way doesn't mean you shouldn't support it.

[Chad C]

***-umptions... It's not complex, folks!

[Mike D]

Anyone who believes in and supports the 2nd amendment should support open carry whether you choose to do or or not.

There is no VALID argument against it that I have seen in this thread like every other OC thread that comes up here, just paranoia and speculation.

Don't want to open carry? GREAT, carry concealed. But to not support it on paranoia and speculation with no basis in fact is ridiculous. That's the liberal mentality: I don't want to do it so nobody else should be able to either.

As to the businesses not wanting open carry in their establishments, great that's their right. There will be provisions in the bill to protect private property owners rights. And as for the person open carrying, untuck your shirt or throw on a cover garment and problem solved. Or you could choose to support another business that is more gun friendly.

I just don't see any downside to OC. There are ways that everyone can win here.

[Chad C]

Attaboy Mike!

[Richardcranium4]

Im pretty sure that the texas open carry proposal has a "MUST BE A LEVEL 2 retention" holster clause in it....

So just grabing a weapon off a person will not be that easy without a fight..

It is my understanding that, "MUST BE A LEVEL 2 retention" has been dropped from the bill.

[Tuffbroadhead]

It is my understanding that, "MUST BE A LEVEL 2 retention" has been dropped from the bill.

Nope, still there...

(8)AA"Unconcealed handgun" means a loaded or unloaded
handgun carried upon the person in a shoulder or belt holster with
at least dual points of resistance that is wholly or partially
visible.

[Coach W]

Anyone who believes in and supports the 2nd amendment should support open carry whether you choose to do or or not.

There is no VALID argument against it that I have seen in this thread like every other OC thread that comes up here, just paranoia and speculation.

Don't want to open carry? GREAT, carry concealed. But to not support it on paranoia and speculation with no basis in fact is ridiculous. That's the liberal mentality: I don't want to do it so nobody else should be able to either.

As to the businesses not wanting open carry in their establishments, great that's their right. There will be provisions in the bill to protect private property owners rights. And as for the person open carrying, untuck your shirt or throw on a cover garment and problem solved. Or you could choose to support another business that is more gun friendly.

I just don't see any downside to OC. There are ways that everyone can win here.

Well said Mike.. That's what i was getting at. but you hit the nail on the head.

[Buck-N-Rut]

I agree with above. I prob won't open carry. But I'm not against it. Personnel preference. I won't be as paranoid if my shirt comes up on accident and exposes my gun.

[Shane]

I agree with above. I prob won't open carry. But I'm not against it. Personnel preference. I won't be as paranoid if my shirt comes up on accident and exposes my gun.

Pretty much what I'm thinking.

[cvanbrunt]

Anyone who believes in and supports the 2nd amendment should support open carry whether you choose to do or or not.

There is no VALID argument against it that I have seen in this thread like every other OC thread that comes up here, just paranoia and speculation.

Don't want to open carry? GREAT, carry concealed. But to not support it on paranoia and speculation with no basis in fact is ridiculous. That's the liberal mentality: I don't want to do it so nobody else should be able to either.

As to the businesses not wanting open carry in their establishments, great that's their right. There will be provisions in the bill to protect private property owners rights. And as for the person open carrying, untuck your shirt or throw on a cover garment and problem solved. Or you could choose to support another business that is more gun friendly.

I just don't see any downside to OC. There are ways that everyone can win here.

I was going to type out a long reply but Mike summed up my thoughts. Just because it isnt something you would choose to do, it is still a step in the right direction instead of moving to ban more weapons.

[txartillerist]

Here is the problem with open cary. If you have not been trained in weapon retention and do not have a level II or higher holster you could get into a jam with a determined bad guy. You also make yourself a target for a bad guy to take out first. My department GOs require us to be concealed when off duty(out of uniform). This is to protect us from being a target when we are with our families. That is another consideration for you; does your family know what to do IF you have to take action?

I am not opposed to open carry but I do not consider it a viable tactical option.

[ColinR]

Contact Rep. Pickett, committee chair and urge him to bring HB700 to a vote so the bill can keep moving!

http://www.house.state.tx.us/members...e/?district=79

Done!

[drjudd]

called reps office

[rossivey]

What does the Level 2 holster benefit?