Communication without internet

[Playa]

When you say they have no internet, do they also not have cellular or satellite based internet?

Can they play interactive video games?

[TKC]

I’m sure you are well aware but be sure to coach your teams on diversion coms as well as code. Channel 8 doesn’t mean channel 8, it means 33 etc. change often on a sporadic cycle that is not patterned but used against other variables.

Also I’m in to donate when you get it up and running. Gosh I wish they had access to about 3 million weapons of war, could communicate with body count and round bursts. Ha

[91cavgt]

I’m sure you are well aware but be sure to coach your teams on diversion coms as well as code. Channel 8 doesn’t mean channel 8, it means 33 etc. change often on a sporadic cycle that is not patterned but used against other variables.

Also I’m in to donate when you get it up and running. Gosh I wish they had access to about 3 million weapons of war, could communicate with body count and round bursts. Ha

This is VERY important, as is making sure the code does not fall into the adversaries hands.

[PondPopper]

Now this is a GREAT and very producrtive thread!!!! Thank you for starting this.. We need to be prepare!! When it hits the fan it's too late..

[SmTx]

When you say they have no internet, do they also not have cellular or satellite based internet?

Can they play interactive video games?

Season 1 of Jack Ryan lol

[TKC]

This is VERY important, as is making sure the code does not fall into the adversaries hands.

Good advice on not letting fall into the wrong hands. Nothing is written down….ever. It is memorized, rehearsed etc. Then you change it again and again and again. Never duplicating the pattern or channel sets.

I would also designate decoys to draw attention away from main lines of operational messaging. Do not pattern it like your normal coms exactly but just close enough to blend in because THEY WILL PICK IT UP, but you want them chasing their tails in the wrong direction and code patterns.

Create redundancy in the coms chain. Secondary can be a made up series of mic breaks and checks. Picture it as your own version of Morse Code that changes repeatedly as well.

[hpdrifter]

eetha artha ustja ickingla heirtha hosca

[ATI]

Thanks for all the replies and ideas.

Yesterday the people assassinated the famous "Death Judge" in front of his house. That SOB signed the execution of thousands of people and it was a great news.

So, the government blocks internet so people cannot take pictures and send news to International News Agencies and communicate with each other around the country to organize demonstrations and other activities. So I want to see what other ways I can help people communicate when there is no internet.

[Chew]

I'm not for sure but I heard the Signal app can be used for secure communication.

[Pedernal]

Good to see folks standing up to tyrosine, better late then never. May the Good Lord bless those sacrificing their safety in the pursuit of freedom.

Have you considered the internet satellite receivers like starlink? I have heard on multiple occasions that Starlink was made available for folks in Iran. Obviously, they would require receivers.

[ATI]

I'm not for sure but I heard the Signal app can be used for secure communication.

I'll have to download it and test it first before I tell them to download it (which takes hours due to no or slow internet) and it not work. THANK YOU for the suggestion.

Good to see folks standing up to tyrosine, better late then never. May the Good Lord bless those sacrificing their safety in the pursuit of freedom.

Have you considered the internet satellite receivers like starlink? I have heard on multiple occasions that Starlink was made available for folks in Iran. Obviously, they would require receivers.

Yes, Elon Musk has been helping with sending Starlink but they need hardware which is very expensive and is needed all over the country to help a large number of people and also which is not always available and or can be found and confiscated.

[Pedernal]

I'll have to download it and test it first before I tell them to download it (which takes hours due to no or slow internet) and it not work. THANK YOU for the suggestion.




Yes, Elon Musk has been helping with sending Starlink but they need hardware which is very expensive and is needed all over the country to help a large number of people and also which is not always available and or can be found and confiscated.

While the equipment is expensive, the part about being confiscated can be mitigated. by creating a self contained unit that can be set up, turned on and upload necessary info. Think about something like a pelican case that can have a rechargeable power pack and everything needed to set up a connection. Once done with the upload, system is shut down and equipment moved.


This would only address the getting information out part. The point to point or person to person comms are going to be way more challenging IMHO. Wilkie’s as have already been suggested are probably their best bet. I believe the Iranian GOV probably has all types of surveillance capabilities on the cellular networks.

[Benno]

I remember your post several months ago. Not effecting my life or my family it has not been on my mind until seeing this post. It raises so many questions for me.

Why do Iranian citizens need to get this story to the world? Why are our journalists not bringing it to me daily or at least weekly on the news? It’s as if the story is being suppressed, especially for a country that has been so involved and financially interested in the stability of the Middle East for so many decades.

If you decide on a viable communication system how would you get them in country to the correct organizations without them being confiscated by the government?


I can only assume you still have family in Iran and want nothing the freedom and opportunity for them and your fellow countrymen. When you have a viable plan for help please post and I will donate what I can.

[Voodoo]

Send-um Smoke-Signal kimosabe

[muzzlebrake]

Send-um Smoke-Signal kimosabe

Too easy to decode. Erbody knows what you are saying.