Electric vehicles

[WItoTX]

No vehicle made that is under the commuter or work truck heading is an investment or am I missing something? Don't they all have a depriciating curve less some of the hot rods much like the early muscle car era.

I still have never met anyone who said they got a commuter car to save money actually coming out ahead. Between fuel (if you have an engine), electricity and charging station (if you have a motor), insurance, wear and tear parts, lack of comfort (I've never been in a base level car that was comfortable), a person will never recoup the cost, even if they make it to 200k on their commuter car. And if that commuter car was 30k, well hell you coulda bought a lot of fuel, insurance, and parts for that price.

Not to mention, you still have to buy all that same stuff for your fun car/truck that is now just sitting collecting dust. And there is a cost to that. Seals need oil splashed on them occasionally or they will fail. Bearings need spinning. Just sitting leads to premature wear. Anecdotally, I had to deal with this on my track car, which the previous owner drove just 3000 miles total between 2017 and 2021 when I purchased.

[Playa]

I read last night that Uber will be a fully EV fleet by 2030. My experience with Uber has gone downhill over the past few years. I can’t imagine what it will be like when drivers are off duty for 12 hrs to recharge

[Welding Teach]

Battery should get about 300k-400k miles before it needs replacing according to what I've read. But who really knows. There are guys driving them for Uber and they have gotten 300k+ and still going so there's that. If I get 150k out of it I'll probably trade it in on another at that point.
But to answer your question, I'm not sure what they cost to replace but by the time it needs a new one it would probably exceed the value of the vehicle. An ICE vehicle would be about the same for a new engine tho.
I'm not too worried about it. Any vehicle purchase in the modern era of electronics and technology is a huge gamble.

I will say it's the best driving car I've ever owned. I really enjoy driving it.

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Out of curiosity how much does it cost to operate/charge your car?

Did you have to have electrical work done at your house when you purchased your car?

I am genuinely curious, since there is no fill ups, oil changes things like that.

[glen]

Wilto- I am that made $$ on my commuter. Had a 123 mile round trip and my daily was a Chevy 3/4 diesel. Got about 13 mph. Bought a used Prius V for $7k. Drove it 2 years and right at 100k miles averaging almost 40 mph. Sold it for $5k and never did anything but change oil. And it was more comfortable than my 4x4 PU all day long- Just hard to put 2x4s and corn in it put I did take it on plenty of hunting and fishing trips

[glen]

Welding Tech- You need 60amp of service so it will depend on your existing electrical service. It will also depend on your electric rate- Good friend has 2 Teslas they use as commuter cars. Said it works out for him but said they eat tires.

[RiverRat1]

So many comments I could make.

1. If someone likes EV then get one.
2. If anyone actually believes the battery life they are told... well LOL is all I got.
3. If anyone thinks an EV is a good investment..wow. At least word it better and say in your current situation it's better than an over priced gas truck/car.
4. "the cars themselves are legit" The car itself maybe, but not without government subsidies. So it's still BS. Without taxpayers you wouldn't buy one, not ever.
5. Uber will not be 100% electric in 8 years. Not even close. They spout BS like that all the time and I can't think of one, not one thing that's ever actually happened. Robots, flying cars, space travel, hole in ozone layer killing us all, and on and on and on.

6. Let me know in 10 years if they honor those warranties. I bet they don't. At least not without more taxpayer money.

7. Do EV's cause more damage to Earth than gas cars? Debate that for a while.

[WItoTX]

Glen, you would be the exception, not the rule. Others on the thread are talking about buying a $60k car, not a $7k car.

Though I don't understand how any modern diesel gets just 13 mpg, but then again, I don't track my own mpg, so maybe I do too LOL

[glen]

Wilto. You will be surprised if you ever look at actual mileage when not rolling on the Hwy with a diesel. I get about 18 out of mine now on Hwy. about 9 in traffic. No need for commuter as I don’t work now. But wife and I have discussed buying a grocery getter and use her SUV to travel and my truck to pull with and otherwise drive the grocery getter

[rolylane6]

No vehicle made that is under the commuter or work truck heading is an investment or am I missing something? Don't they all have a depriciating curve less some of the hot rods much like the early muscle car era.

That was my point

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[rolylane6]

They are a vehicle that fill 2 niches: Rich people who want toys, and people with short commutes that can charge their appliance at home every night. That's all well and good. For now I'll keep my world destroying, dinosaur burning v8.

I kept 5 of them, not all V8's but all are ozone burners![emoji1787]

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[rolylane6]

How do you live with so many active notifications on your phone? That would drive me nuts

I've gotten used to ignoring them. There's folks on here that have given me a lot of good practice at it...lol

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[rolylane6]

So many comments I could make.

1. If someone likes EV then get one.
2. If anyone actually believes the battery life they are told... well LOL is all I got.
3. If anyone thinks an EV is a good investment..wow. At least word it better and say in your current situation it's better than an over priced gas truck/car.
4. "the cars themselves are legit" The car itself maybe, but not without government subsidies. So it's still BS. Without taxpayers you wouldn't buy one, not ever.
5. Uber will not be 100% electric in 8 years. Not even close. They spout BS like that all the time and I can't think of one, not one thing that's ever actually happened. Robots, flying cars, space travel, hole in ozone layer killing us all, and on and on and on.

6. Let me know in 10 years if they honor those warranties. I bet they don't. At least not without more taxpayer money.

7. Do EV's cause more damage to Earth than gas cars? Debate that for a while.

Where do you get your info?
1. I did
2. Lol IS all you got!
3. A vehicle is not a good investment, period. YOU need to word it better, no one else. You're the one trying make the argument about vehicles, any vehicles, being good investments. They're not. They ALL suck money from you from day one.
4. I am a taxpayer. I bought one. Subsized? I guess?? But it is what it is so what's you're point? The car is awesome. Why should I not buy one? Because YOU don't like the policies surrounding it? What other products have you been not using for the past 50 years on your principle that they're subsidized? Corn, wheat, soy, rice...oh yeah, oil, automobiles? Everything is subsidized... get over it!
5. Could care less what Uber does.
6. What do you base this on? You don't like 'em so grabbing at straws to discredit them with your "made up" facts. I guess we can apply the statement to ICE warranties as well?
8. Could care less. Didn't buy it to "save the planet".

Politics surrounding EV's are ridiculous and the government is pushing policies that are asinine. There's absolutely no logical reason for forcing anyone into buying an electric car. That doesn't mean the cars don't serve a purpose and fill a need.


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[rolylane6]

Out of curiosity how much does it cost to operate/charge your car?



Did you have to have electrical work done at your house when you purchased your car?



I am genuinely curious, since there is no fill ups, oil changes things like that.

About $80 a month to charge but that's driving roughly 2500 miles a month.

I bought a Chevy Bolt EUV. GM includes a program with the purchase that included paying an electrician to come to your residence and install a 240v outlet for the included charger that comes with the car. The outlet installation has some restrictions but mine was completely free and the install was completed within 3 weeks of me submitting my application for it.

The ONLY expenses I have with this car are the electricity to charge it, washer fluid, and eventually wiper blades and tires.
So far, at 5300 miles, it's the best car I've ever driven.

Edit - I mis-stated my monthly charging expense. I spend about $80 a month for charging.
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[Kingfisher789]

It cost 10k to make the ac work again on a BMW i2 with 36000 miles.

[iamntxhunter]

How do you live with so many active notifications on your phone? That would drive me nuts

They can be turned off if you are getting to many.

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