Hearing UT fight song is likely gone...

[Bullseye07]

I’m sure there are, just as there are quite a few that also don’t take it literally and understand it’s a metaphor.

Likewise, I’m sure there are plenty of veterans that agree with Kaepernick kneeling during the national anthem (at the direction of a green beret I might add) and plenty that are completely against it. You can’t please everyone, but we can all quit being hypersensitive to everything and try our best to see things objectively.

The fact that you keep defending it shows how oblivious you are that it’s disrespectful.

Kaepernick kneeling during the anthem may be offensive to some, but he’s not comparing a game to war.

I’m one of the least sensitive people out there. I truly don’t care about 99.999% of the crap that people get worked up about. But I **** sure care about people disrespecting and minimizing the sacrifices and struggles that my brothers and sisters in arms have made in battle for YOU.

Be better. Teach your kids to be better.


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[FLASH_OUTDOORS]

It is way more than statutes and songs and brands and whatever else is currently offensive at the moment. The big push here, is a much larger target aimed at with the scope of racism.



Mark my words the U S Constitution is their ultimate target. Why? Because they cannot control the 1st and 2nd amendment's, although you are seeing the 1st amendment being shredded right now.



The Constitution will be the final assault, since the founding fathers, will be deemed as racist. This will then lay the groundwork to destroy the document itself. Statues being removed and destroyed, buildings and streets and schools renamed, history removed is all it is. It is coming. The hooligans in Seattle are demanding police turn in their badges and the justice system torn down, the prisons opened up and everyone released under this racist system in America. Why? Well now since everything is racist the Constitution must be as well. Watch and see.

This is truth and scary


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[Gclyde28]

The fact that you keep defending it shows how oblivious you are that it’s disrespectful.

Kaepernick kneeling during the anthem may be offensive to some, but he’s not comparing a game to war.

I’m one of the least sensitive people out there. I truly don’t care about 99.999% of the crap that people get worked up about. But I **** sure care about people disrespecting and minimizing the sacrifices and struggles that my brothers and sisters in arms have made in battle for YOU.

Be better. Teach your kids to be better.


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I don’t minimize the struggles that all the service men and women have provided for our county. I am eternally grateful for their time and sacrifices to better the world and this country we live in.

I’ll raise my kids how I see fit, they will respect their elders and appreciate the hard work and dedication of our military. They will also understand that people can use a METAPHOR to describe situations and they will know the definition of a metaphor so they don’t become offended by internet comments and understand that it’s just a phrase applied to an object or action that it’s not literally applicable to.

[Bayouboy]

I’m sure there are, just as there are quite a few that also don’t take it literally and understand it’s a metaphor.

Likewise, I’m sure there are plenty of veterans that agree with Kaepernick kneeling during the national anthem (at the direction of a green beret I might add) and plenty that are completely against it. You can’t please everyone, but we can all quit being hypersensitive to everything and try our best to see things objectively.

The green beret you speak of I have personally met. You probably mention him because he attended and played at UT. Myself and a couple of other vets at work gladly told him we did not agree with his outlook on Kap's disrespect.

But, he has gotten a lot of TV exposure for it. So, good for him.

The company I work for brought him in as a motivational speaker. He seemed like a good guy. But, the Kap prospective rubbed a lot of folks the wrong way.

[quackadikt]

I’m sure there are, just as there are quite a few that also don’t take it literally and understand it’s a metaphor.

Likewise, I’m sure there are plenty of veterans that agree with Kaepernick kneeling during the national anthem (at the direction of a green beret I might add) and plenty that are completely against it. You can’t please everyone, but we can all quit being hypersensitive to everything and try our best to see things objectively.

Yea, so let's not get offended over a song that, after digging into it myself, can't find a way to tie this to racism.

You should listen to some of your own advice.

[Gclyde28]

Yea, so let's not get offended over a song that, after digging into it myself, can't find a way to tie this to racism.

You should listen to some of your own advice.

I was not personally offended by it, which I guess is part of the privilege of being white, but at this point in time it’s obvious that it offends a certain demographic of our society and I don’t believe a song that is supposed to be a point of unity should make a group of people feel segregated.

But now that I am educated on the origin of it, I understand how it is being tied to racism and I can’t say I disagree with their views. The song was first performed at a minstrel show by students in blackface costume and the melody was based on “I’ve been workin on the railroad” which has some very racist lyrics of its own. While the lyrics to “The Eyes of Texas” might not be racist, the song definitely has racist associations with its origins.

What’s wrong with coming together, having a discussion about what would be a good song for everyone to sing together that would promote unity for everyone, and all make a new tradition at the same time. You can still hold your horns up high and sing together before and after the game so that doesn’t change, just a new tune and some new lyrics. Doesn’t seem too bad to me.

[Gclyde28]

The green beret you speak of I have personally met. You probably mention him because he attended and played at UT. Myself and a couple of other vets at work gladly told him we did not agree with his outlook on Kap's disrespect.

But, he has gotten a lot of TV exposure for it. So, good for him.

The company I work for brought him in as a motivational speaker. He seemed like a good guy. But, the Kap prospective rubbed a lot of folks the wrong way.

I too have met him personally. We worked together while he was at UT. We can all have our differences about his views on the Kaepernick situation but the one thing I can guarantee you is Nate is a good as a human as you’ll find anywhere. He’s stands up for what he thinks is right and having different opinions on that is ok.

[Scubasteveo]

I was not personally offended by it, which I guess is part of the privilege of being white, but at this point in time it’s obvious that it offends a certain demographic of our society and I don’t believe a song that is supposed to be a point of unity should make a group of people feel segregated.

But now that I am educated on the origin of it, I understand how it is being tied to racism and I can’t say I disagree with their views. The song was first performed at a minstrel show by students in blackface costume and the melody was based on “I’ve been workin on the railroad” which has some very racist lyrics of its own. While the lyrics to “The Eyes of Texas” might not be racist, the song definitely has racist associations with its origins.

What’s wrong with coming together, having a discussion about what would be a good song for everyone to sing together that would promote unity for everyone, and all make a new tradition at the same time. You can still hold your horns up high and sing together before and after the game so that doesn’t change, just a new tune and some new lyrics. Doesn’t seem too bad to me.

People who don't like change at all will never change their point of view, nor care to make others feel included. Once everyone realizes this all over sports that in all reality mean nothing in the everyday world, it might change. The same people complaining about the cancel culture are talking about boycotting sports that don't align with their beliefs. i.e. Nascar and the Bars and stars, and NFL and kneeling, now UT and a song.

[Burntorange Bowhunter]

Nate did not really support the kneeling. What he said was he did not agree with the protest BUT if he HAD to do something at least kneel as upposed to sitting.

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[MacDaddy67]

People who don't like change at all will never change their point of view, nor care to make others feel included. Once everyone realizes this all over sports that in all reality mean nothing in the everyday world, it might change. The same people complaining about the cancel culture are talking about boycotting sports that don't align with their beliefs. i.e. Nascar and the Bars and stars, and NFL and kneeling, now UT and a song.

I hope you understand that this is not the end goal....

They want your guns....

you gonna give them up?

[Gclyde28]

I hope you understand that this is not the end goal....

They want your guns....

you gonna give them up?

Nope not going to give up something guaranteed to me in the bill of rights.

I really hope your not hinting at this song being tied to free speech.

[MacDaddy67]

Nope not going to give up something guaranteed to me in the bill of rights.

I really hope your not hinting at this song being tied to free speech.

not talking about the song at all....

The left wants to fundamentally change this country...BO said so himself...

It started in our schools, universities...the media is all in...

erase history, limit free speech, abandon our justice system, they want to strip away all things conservatives cherish....

And trust me when I say they will come after your guns.....it has already begun

As far as the song goes...it will go the way the money goes...if the alumni stand together and stop donating that song will be sung every Saturday...if they cave in and keep the money flowing its gone...

[quackadikt]

I was not personally offended by it, which I guess is part of the privilege of being white, but at this point in time it’s obvious that it offends a certain demographic of our society and I don’t believe a song that is supposed to be a point of unity should make a group of people feel segregated.

But now that I am educated on the origin of it, I understand how it is being tied to racism and I can’t say I disagree with their views. The song was first performed at a minstrel show by students in blackface costume and the melody was based on “I’ve been workin on the railroad” which has some very racist lyrics of its own. While the lyrics to “The Eyes of Texas” might not be racist, the song definitely has racist associations with its origins.

What’s wrong with coming together, having a discussion about what would be a good song for everyone to sing together that would promote unity for everyone, and all make a new tradition at the same time. You can still hold your horns up high and sing together before and after the game so that doesn’t change, just a new tune and some new lyrics. Doesn’t seem too bad to me.

The alleged costumes the song was initially performed in have no bearing on the song itself. Neither does the melody. This is nothing more than people looking for an excuse to find something offensive, which unfortunately, is just the way of the world now.


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[Gclyde28]

Hearing UT fight song is likely gone...

The alleged costumes the song was initially performed in have no bearing on the song itself. Neither does the melody. This is nothing more than people looking for an excuse to find something offensive, which unfortunately, is just the way of the world now.


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To play devils advocate:

The costumes clearly have a significant meaning to the group of people that feel offended by the song and the melody further perpetuates the fact that there are racist undertones to it.

Could it possibly be that your thoughts show your unwillingness to see the world of through the lens of another person that doesn’t have the same life circumstances as you do? Just playing devils advocate here.

I don’t agree with everything the players included on their list, but the song is something I understand them wanting to part ways with. While I enjoyed the tradition involved with it before, now that I’m aware of the songs history, I don’t feel the tradition would hold the same weight as it did before this was all brought to light. Keep the tradition of singing a song before and after the game with your horns up, just use a different song. I don’t really think it’s that big of a deal, but that’s just my opinion.

[Deerslayersh]

I was not personally offended by it, which I guess is part of the privilege of being white, but at this point in time it’s obvious that it offends a certain demographic of our society and I don’t believe a song that is supposed to be a point of unity should make a group of people feel segregated.

But now that I am educated on the origin of it, I understand how it is being tied to racism and I can’t say I disagree with their views. The song was first performed at a minstrel show by students in blackface costume and the melody was based on “I’ve been workin on the railroad” which has some very racist lyrics of its own. While the lyrics to “The Eyes of Texas” might not be racist, the song definitely has racist associations with its origins.

What’s wrong with coming together, having a discussion about what would be a good song for everyone to sing together that would promote unity for everyone, and all make a new tradition at the same time. You can still hold your horns up high and sing together before and after the game so that doesn’t change, just a new tune and some new lyrics. Doesn’t seem too bad to me.

My thoughts as well. I don't understand the hypocrisy people display about protests depending on which opinion they hold. These players are standing up for something they believe in (whether you agree with them or not), the same way you might stand up for hunting rights or what-not (that many others disagree with). It's exactly what the 1st Amendment is protecting. And if they get enough people on board with it and it changes, good for them and good for UT for listening to its students.

People who don't like change at all will never change their point of view, nor care to make others feel included. Once everyone realizes this all over sports that in all reality mean nothing in the everyday world, it might change. The same people complaining about the cancel culture are talking about boycotting sports that don't align with their beliefs. i.e. Nascar and the Bars and stars, and NFL and kneeling, now UT and a song.

Yup. There's a double standard for sure (from both sides).

Could it possibly be that your thoughts show your unwillingness to see the world through the lens of another person that doesn’t have the same life circumstances as you do?

^^^ Bingo.

** I'm UT alumni. I have sung this song countless times and had no idea about its origins at all. I haven't done enough research on the song to even know what my opinion is on it - but I always support peoples' right to speech. If both sides put their foot down, both sides will be negatively impacted by the results, so I hope UT can come to an agreement with its students.