Shutdown versus COVID deaths

[rut-ro]

That does NOT mean more people are being infected each day. It simply means they are finally getting out crap tons of test kits.

They were only testing a stupid small number a few weeks ago (like less than 100) It just recently really ramped up to hundreds of thousands of tests.

Of those 20k that tested positive over the last 24 hours you would need to know how long they've had it. It's not like they got it yesterday. And who's to say this didn't sweep through the US 3 months ago? There were thousands of people with the Flu that tested negative for the Flu in Dec/Jan/Feb

I agree with this here. The numbers are rising fast because they are testing more.

[MBV77]

Where is all the staff at? Working our asses off because contrary to popular belief hospitals are NOT empty. You just can’t see it in waiting rooms, etc.

I’d like to see ANY ER nurse who is willing to state OUT LOUD that things are quiet or slow unless they are in a tiny hospital or a freestanding. I call BS on that because where I work, it is insanely busy.

It was a small hospital. It’s in a county of 150-200K residents. Two nurses there did state that out loud. 1,000’s of those residents travel in and out of the metroplex for work everyday. I guess it may be coming, just isn’t here yet.


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[LWC]

That does NOT mean more people are being infected each day. It simply means they are finally getting out crap tons of test kits.

^^^^This

When did common sense go away? How do people watch the hysterical media number and not think for themselves, ask questions, put 2 and 2 together?

Did anyone on earth think we would test 10X more this week and not have HUGE increases over last week?

[RdRdrFan]

Cratering our economy has been done to save lives. The question remains, how many lives saved from COVID-19 justify the long-term and far reaching ramifications of what will be a deep recession economically (best case)? What is the number? I’m not saying that shutting down the economy was wrong. I’ve just struggled with the fact that we have put a gun to our own head economically. I think that many/most people don’t truly grasp yet what this has done/is doing because many think on an economic level that is incredibly micro based. That takes time for the stuff to roll downhill.

[glen]

Well our staff here is not busy. I just went by and if I’m not mistaken it’s the largest Level 1 trauma center in Central Texas. They will get busy. And they all know it. But right now nada. Not as many wrecks, accidents, and recreational or industrial trauma.

[Charles]

Cratering our economy has been done to save lives. The question remains, how many lives saved from COVID-19 justify the long-term and far reaching ramifications of what will be a deep recession economically (best case)? What is the number? I’m not saying that shutting down the economy was wrong. I’ve just struggled with the fact that we have put a gun to our own head economically. I think that many/most people don’t truly grasp yet what this has done/is doing because many think on an economic level that is incredibly micro based. That takes time for the stuff to roll downhill.

And the first one to say "if it saved just one life it was worth it" needs a good swift kick in the nut sacks.

[MassMan]

Cratering our economy has been done to save lives. The question remains, how many lives saved from COVID-19 justify the long-term and far reaching ramifications of what will be a deep recession economically (best case)? What is the number? I’m not saying that shutting down the economy was wrong. I’ve just struggled with the fact that we have put a gun to our own head economically. I think that many/most people don’t truly grasp yet what this has done/is doing because many think on an economic level that is incredibly micro based. That takes time for the stuff to roll downhill.

Maybe a four digit DOW will get their attention.

[MBV77]

Shutdown versus COVID deaths

And the first one to say "if it saved just one life it was worth it" needs a good swift kick in the nut sacks.

[emoji3][emoji1360] Especially when that one life ended up dying anyway from the great famine in the upcoming depression.


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[RdRdrFan]

And the first one to say "if it saved just one life it was worth it" needs a good swift kick in the nut sacks.

Maybe a four digit DOW will get their attention.

Most people haven’t grasped how scary this really is. And I’m not talking about COVID-19. We are on the cusp of experiencing something that NONE of us have experienced in our entire lives. This could make 2008 look like a cakewalk. And we did it to ourselves.

[LWC]

Cratering our economy has been done to save lives. The question remains, how many lives saved from COVID-19 justify the long-term and far reaching ramifications of what will be a deep recession economically (best case)? What is the number? I’m not saying that shutting down the economy was wrong. I’ve just struggled with the fact that we have put a gun to our own head economically. I think that many/most people don’t truly grasp yet what this has done/is doing because many think on an economic level that is incredibly micro based. That takes time for the stuff to roll downhill.

If you ask that question, you are a heartless SOB that only cares about yourself! Not really, but that is what people will say. The guy I am following is predicting 1400 deaths total in the US.

https://dispensationalpublishing.com/covid-19-scientific-prediction-model-march-23/

I'm sure the gov will have some numbers that say they saved tens if not hundreds of thousands of lives by enforcing these measures. Maybe someday we will find out the truth. But you can bet it won't be what the gov tells us. By then the media will have likely turned and be giving out the real info to make the admin look bad.

[Charles]

Most people haven’t grasped how scary this really is. And I’m not talking about COVID-19. We are on the cusp of experiencing something that NONE of us have experienced in our entire lives. This could make 2008 look like a cakewalk. And we did it to ourselves.

I'm seeing it unfold the last few workdays. I'm a small business owner that provides services to bigger Companies. I have lost count how many of my customers (remember, I'm a small company) have had me make changes to their system because they layed employees off or had a Reduction in Force.

It's absolutely mind boggling.

[texasdeerhunter]

Most people haven’t grasped how scary this really is. And I’m not talking about COVID-19. We are on the cusp of experiencing something that NONE of us have experienced in our entire lives. This could make 2008 look like a cakewalk. And we did it to ourselves.

This is truly scary and what bothers me most about this whole situation. We are hurling ourselves into something potentially worse than the Great Depression

[AtTheWall]

Don't let emotions overtake yourself.

There is a price on life. It's a math formula. Google it.

Basically for every 200k (WAG as I don't know the current number) spent fighting CV one person will die from all other random things that money could have been spent on and saved them from. Yes, you would need to calculate if not spending a dime would mean CV would kill a lot more people.

But 2 Trillion is a lot of lives/money. No way CV would kill that many if left unchecked.

Yes and we didn't need to fight WWI and the European Theater in WWII.

That's UN - AMERICAN! We fight....now THAT'S AMERICAN!

Woulda-coulda-shoulda....sometimes the Human Spirit means more to win and fight to save any single life, than any of the MONIES IN THE WORLD!

[AtTheWall]

That Infant or Child, choking for breath to live....and or that Mother or Father who are one breath away from dying.....as their family suffers through the pain.

Once we give up due to numbers.....we are lost as a Society with ZERO MORALITY.

I wasn't trained and or raised that way......and I bet the majority of America, feels that same way.

[tex4k]

Cratering our economy has been done to save lives. The question remains, how many lives saved from COVID-19 justify the long-term and far reaching ramifications of what will be a deep recession economically (best case)? What is the number? I’m not saying that shutting down the economy was wrong. I’ve just struggled with the fact that we have put a gun to our own head economically. I think that many/most people don’t truly grasp yet what this has done/is doing because many think on an economic level that is incredibly micro based. That takes time for the stuff to roll downhill.

It will only devastate those that have relied solely on the current system. People that studied just a little of how things worked in the past or were far thinking enough to step off into developing forms of business will take a hickey or a little worse but will be able to keep their head above water. This isn't all encompassing of course but more generalization.