Originally posted by ttaxidermy
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Ok...so US citizens don't fall into this category. No US citizens should have their rights taken away without Due Process? -
What if he was a US citizen? Still keep him locked up?Originally posted by Black Ice View PostComment
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Depends.. Lots of scenarios here..... Example: If someone breaks into your home, armed and ready to kill your wife and kids or you, are you going to allow him or her Due Process?? Ill guarantee you I'm not. Their rights shall be dissolved.Originally posted by Traildust View PostComment
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I wouldn't support the ACLU for any reason! They are the primary instigator on telling/suing states for things they disagree with! Good luck with your quest!Comment
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Of course....you have the right to defend yourself. This guy hasn't broke any laws.Originally posted by ttaxidermy View PostComment
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Knee jerk response from Trump and many other people. On the surface it seems to be a reasonable solution. Reasonable at least until you realize that there are a bunch of American citizens on those lists that are no threat to this country or its people. The issue isn't banning people on those lists from buying firearms, the problem is how you get on the list and what appeal process is necessary to cure a false placement.Originally posted by Traildust View Post
If you make it so that people who are a real threat to society like Mateen are not allowed to purchase weapons I'm cool with that....
Or you could go with my preferred solution.... Get the government out of the way and let folks protect themselves without restrictions...Comment
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Right, your cool with banning folks on the list....just not cool with who gets to make the list. It's a cluster f.
Who gets to determine who or who is not a threat?Comment
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Like I said... let everyone protect themselves... without restrictionsOriginally posted by Traildust View Post
just think...
How many would Mateen have killed, if a couple of hundred of the people in that night club had been packing Glocks... A well armed society is a polite society...
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Oh, I agree. There is nowhere on US soil I shouldn't be able to carry. Even on private property.Originally posted by Mike Javi Cooper View PostLike I said... let everyone protect themselves... without restrictions
just think...
How many would Mateen have killed, if a couple of hundred of the people in that night club had been packing Glocks... A well armed society is a polite society...Comment
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Do you understand due process? It has nothing to do with your "scenario".Originally posted by ttaxidermy View PostComment
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Lol! I'm pretty sure there wasn't 200 people in that bar that wasn't FOR gun control. I'd be willing to bet well over 95% of the people in that club were Democrats. That was truly a "soft" target.Originally posted by Mike Javi Cooper View PostLike I said... let everyone protect themselves... without restrictions
just think...
How many would Mateen have killed, if a couple of hundred of the people in that night club had been packing Glocks... A well armed society is a polite society...Comment
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This is fringe territory. No, I don't believe non US citizens should be provisioned with the same rights as a US Citizen. But I also believe in basic human rights and a person should not be imprisoned indefinitely without causeComment
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Originally posted by Traildust View Post
"I am for socialism, disarmament, and ultimately for abolishing the state itself as an instrument of violence and compulsion.
I seek the social ownership of property, the abolition of the propertied class, and sole control by those who produce wealth.
Communism is, of course, the goal.”
ACLU founder Roger Nash BaldwinComment
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We are suppose to be the good guys..................are we?
If one of our citizens is held in another country for "security reasons", but had broke no law, what do you think our country's response should be?
I think if a person is put on the no fly list, they should have immediate access to arbitration to remedy the cause of it.Comment
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