Please join the fight!

[bowhuntntxn]

Let's ask Iran, Somalia, Lybia, Jordan, Iraq, n. Korea, chad, Georgia, and turkey how they feel about due process for non citizens. Maybe they can explain where we are going wrong.

[Darton]

Do you have any examples of this?

Sure,

The ACLU suing the state of Mississippi for passing a law to allow business owners the right to refuse service to LBGT based off of religious beliefs.

The ACLU suing and forcing the removal of the ten commandments in front of the Oklahoma State Capital.

The ACLU suing Universities for not admitting illegal aliens! Currently LOMA.

Just look at everyone they are suing in the name of human rights, but all it is promoting their own agenda of what they think America should be!

Do your homework before making endorsements like this

[XBowHunter]

This is fringe territory. No, I don't believe non US citizens should be provisioned with the same rights as a US Citizen. But I also believe in basic human rights and a person should not be imprisoned indefinitely without cause

our declaration of independence states:

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all Men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness.”


no where does it say "all Americans are created equal"

i agree that no one should be indefinitely imprisoned without due process...

[47]

I wouldn't support the ACLU for any reason! They are the primary instigator on telling/suing states for things they disagree with! Good luck with your quest!

[Traildust]

Sure,

The ACLU suing the state of Mississippi for passing a law to allow business owners the right to refuse service to LBGT based off of religious beliefs.

The ACLU suing and forcing the removal of the ten commandments in front of the Oklahoma State Capital.

The ACLU suing Universities for not admitting illegal aliens! Currently LOMA.

Just look at everyone they are suing in the name of human rights, but all it is promoting their own agenda of what they think America should be!

Do your homework before making endorsements like this

So you're cool with discrimination as long as it fits your agenda.

[Landrover]

ACLU.........my skeptical meter instantly kicks in. Always a backdoor ulterior motive thus the credibility is limited. I am in for the comments!

Knee jerk response from Trump and many other people. On the surface it seems to be a reasonable solution. Reasonable at least until you realize that there are a bunch of American citizens on those lists that are no threat to this country or its people. The issue isn't banning people on those lists from buying firearms, the problem is how you get on the list and what appeal process is necessary to cure a false placement.
...

Admission & Realization is the first step to a sobriety! But clearly, knee jerk reactions are the order of the day for America as a whole......and Trump is the KING of knee jerk regrettably! Both sides of the aisle are incredibly guilty of this. Amazing how easily everyone loses their mind when something goes awry and YES both sides attempt to use events for political gain..........which limit our liberties once they finish "legislating"! Simply READ the constitution, the attached amendments and the Bill of Rights.............all the answers & appropriate actions are right there. I wonder if Trump or Hillary have actually ever read it............or better yet.........understood it! WE are in trouble!

[Traildust]

ACLU.........my skeptical meter instantly kicks in. Always a backdoor ulterior motive thus the credibility is limited. I am in for the comments!

Admission & Realization is the first step to a sobriety! But clearly, knee jerk reactions are the order of the day for America as a whole......and Trump is the KING of knee jerk regrettably! Both sides of the aisle are incredibly guilty of this. Amazing how easily everyone loses their mind when something goes awry and YES both sides attempt to use events for political gain..........which limit our liberties once they finish "legislating"! Simply READ the constitution, the attached amendments and the Bill of Rights.............all the answers & appropriate actions are right there. I wonder if Trump or Hillary have actually ever read it............or better yet.........understood it! WE are in trouble!

Agreed....I just like seeing some folks hypocrisy when issues don't fit their views.

Myself included.

We get mad as hell when they take God out of school, but don't see a problem when we has religious symbols at the courthouse.

[Mike Javi Cooper]

So you're cool with discrimination as long as it fits your agenda.

From personal experience I can tell you that pretty much everyone is cool with discrimination that fits their own agenda...

[donpablo]

Always a Loophole

Agreed....I just like seeing some folks hypocrisy when issues don't fit their views.

Myself included.

We get mad as hell when they take God out of school, but don't see a problem when we has religious symbols at the courthouse.

I agree that we shouldn't allow school personnel to promote religion because if we allow Henry Smith to push Christianity we have to also allow Mohammed Alfazar to promote Islam and Sarah Black to promote atheism, etc. Of course this also means that we can't prohibit students from doing so or it would infringe on their 1st amendment rights. However, I do believe that the ten commandments are an appropriate display at a courthouse due to the historic influence of that "document" on our current legal system. Has nothing to do with the religious aspect. Take that ACLU!

Dang, maybe I should go commando.

[BrandonA]

This is fringe territory. No, I don't believe non US citizens should be provisioned with the same rights as a US Citizen. But I also believe in basic human rights and a person should not be imprisoned indefinitely without cause

Winner

[PondPopper]

Do you understand due process? It has nothing to do with your "scenario".

Sure it does. Straight out of the dictionary. I will chose the treatment..There will be no due process. Don't over analyze things.. Intellects crack me up..

due proc·ess
noun
fair treatment through the normal judicial system, especially as a citizen's entitlement.

[txjustin]

Sure it does. Straight out of the dictionary. I will chose the treatment..There will be no due process. Don't over analyze things.. Intellects crack me up..

due proc·ess
noun
fair treatment through the normal judicial system, especially as a citizen's entitlement.

You last sentence of your quote was "their rights shall be absolved". They have no rights. Further, are you part of the judicial system?

Again, don't say things you don't understand, which seems to be most things, so just sit in the corner.

[Darton]

So you're cool with discrimination as long as it fits your agenda.

States have the right to govern themselves regardless of agenda If you believe that the Federal Government should get involved then does that make you a socialist?

[PondPopper]

You last sentence of your quote was "their rights shall be absolved". They have no rights. Further, are you part of the judicial system?

Again, don't say things you don't understand, which seems to be most things, so just sit in the corner.

The word I used was Dissolved cheif .. You may want take your own advice.. Your killin me.. Lol

I know. Another Oh Crap moment.. Lol

[txjustin]

The word I used was Dissolved cheif .. You may want take your own advice..

I give up.

Yep, you used "rights" and "due process" in the absolute correct context...well done.














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